Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 25, 2005, at 2:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, I'm not involved with orchestra management and I don't believe you are, either, so I'm inclined to believe the words of someone who is, rather than the impressions of outsiders. Fine. Discussion closed. Christopher

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Jul 2005 at 23:50, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Jul 24, 2005, at 4:58 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > On 24 Jul 2005 at 2:18, Christopher Smith wrote: > >> > >> Isn't it possible that at least part of the reason was because more > >> qualified female candidates were auditioning? . . . > >

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 24, 2005, at 4:58 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 24 Jul 2005 at 2:18, Christopher Smith wrote: Isn't it possible that at least part of the reason was because more qualified female candidates were auditioning? . . . I don't know. What I do know is that the person who was quoted attrib

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-24 Thread Raymond Horton
Perhaps, but about 1966 or 67 I remember that the NY Phil still had but one female non-harpist (a bass player). Raymond Horton Louisville Orchestra John Howell wrote: At 6:02 PM -0400 7/23/05, David W. Fenton wrote: I remember reading somewhere recently about the change in orchestras where

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Jul 2005 at 2:18, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Jul 23, 2005, at 6:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > > I remember reading somewhere recently about the change in orchestras > > where someone entirely attributed the increasing hiring of women > > entirely to the institution of blind audition

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 23, 2005, at 6:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I remember reading somewhere recently about the change in orchestras where someone entirely attributed the increasing hiring of women entirely to the institution of blind auditions 10 or 15 years ago. There was a particularly striking passage

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-23 Thread John Howell
At 6:02 PM -0400 7/23/05, David W. Fenton wrote: I remember reading somewhere recently about the change in orchestras where someone entirely attributed the increasing hiring of women entirely to the institution of blind auditions 10 or 15 years ago. That may be correct in terms of the top tier

Re: [Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Jul 2005 at 11:24, John Howell wrote: > The orchestra > world went through its own identity crisis around mid-20th century, > with more women very gradually being admitted to more orchestras and > better orchestras, even unto the exalted ranks of principals and > concertmasters, until parit

[Finale] Countertenor barred... OT (and long)

2005-07-23 Thread John Howell
At 7:47 AM -0400 7/23/05, dhbailey wrote: Come to think of it, of all the choruses and choirs I know of in this area, only 4 or so out of 20 that I can think of, have the "women sing soprano and alto and men sing tenor and bass" model. Good post and good analysis, David. Maybe we'd be better