[Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-01 Thread Simon Troup
I have a particular view on the interface, I'm wondering how much empathy there is out there for the same ideas. I'll just say what I think, feel free to disagree. Professional applications don't need multiple choices of icons types, or different desktop choices. One simple, well designed set o

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Simon Troup wrote: I have a particular view on the interface, I'm wondering how much empathy there is out there for the same ideas. I'll just say what I think, feel free to disagree. Professional applications don't need multiple choices of icons types, or different desktop choices. One simple, w

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-01 Thread Simon Troup
> paletteses Ah yes, another wonderful search/replace fiasco :) -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art - Finale IRC channel server: irc.chatspike.net port: 6667 channel: #Finale - ___ Finale mailing list Final

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Simon Troup wrote: paletteses Ah yes, another wonderful search/replace fiasco :) And, apparently, Gollum's dialogue coach. :) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Michael Cook
At 3:33 + 2/03/2005, Simon Troup wrote: Professional applications don't need multiple choices of icons types, or different desktop choices. One simple, well designed set of icons would suffice. The whole rosewood desktop and vellum paper idea borrowed from sibelius is totally unnecessary and

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread John Bell
On 2 Mar 2005, at 14:24, Michael Cook wrote: How right you are. Here Finale gives me the possibility of customizing something I don't need to customize (I still use the "traditional" icons because they're the only ones that remind me which layer I'm in by showing the whole Simple palette in the

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Simon Troup / 05.3.2 / 10:33 PM wrote: >I don't know how many of you have used Indesign - I've been using it a >lot recently and every time I go back to Finale the whole interface feels >... well ... 1980's! I don't usually do 'me to' but this one is very true. One thing Finale really bothers me

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
I generally agree with what Simon said. I wish Finale would take the palette icons from the "Globe" set (is that Mac only?), which are by far the best-designed palette icons currently available, and make the following changes: 1) Make them all grayscale -- with an option to override that with th

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Mar 2005 at 13:42, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > One thing Finale really bothers me is how window is open. It gets > behind tool bar. Page new is not centered, etc, etc. Why do I have > to resize window every time I open, is the one frustrates me most. > > At least you should be able to control

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
Most programs nowadays let you download skins and stuff as an option if you don't like the default visual items. Yet some of them can be easily made by anyone who knows how (they're usually png images). Maybe people at Finale can make things like icons, wallpapers or even cursors optionally customi

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Mar 2005 at 14:37, Rafael L. Junchaya wrote: > Most programs nowadays . . . "Most"? *boggle* I have three programs on my computer that have skins (Mozilla, Firefox (which is really one program in a certain sense, but their skins are not cross-compatible because of completely different UI

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Simon Troup
> Maybe people at Finale can make things like icons, wallpapers or even > cursors optionally customizable thru internet downloads. This is the sort of thing I'd want to avoid. This isn't a lightweight instant messaging application, or an MP3 player - it's supposed to be the finest music engravin

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Maybe I am on my own here, but quite honestly I couldn't care less about the look of the Finale palettes. I still use the Traditional set, simply because it is the smallest. I hope MM is going to repair all the other bugs before they start yet again to change the look of palettes and spend all

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Mar 2005 at 21:24, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Maybe I am on my own here, but quite honestly I couldn't care less > about the look of the Finale palettes. I still use the Traditional > set, simply because it is the smallest. I hope MM is going to repair > all the other bugs before they start ye

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Simon Troup
> Maybe I am on my own here, but quite honestly I couldn't care less > about the look of the Finale palettes. I still use the Traditional > set, simply because it is the smallest. I hope MM is going to repair > all the other bugs before they start yet again to change the look of > palettes and spen

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Mar 2005 at 16:03, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > David W. Fenton / 05.3.2 / 02:33 PM wrote: > > >I don't understand people who don't work with child windows > >maximized. Why would you want all that blank space in the parent > >window? > > > >Of course, the Mac works completely differently from th

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 05.3.2 / 02:33 PM wrote: >I don't understand people who don't work with child windows >maximized. Why would you want all that blank space in the parent >window? > >Of course, the Mac works completely differently from the MDI on >Windows, so maybe you're a Mac user and complain

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 05.3.2 / 04:31 PM wrote: >That's one of the advantages of the Windows approach (and one of its >drawbacks, too) -- you can run your parent application at 1/2 the >screen and then run your document windows fully maximized within the >parent window. OK, I admit. I envy Windows

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 4:58 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Yes, under MacOS, the window position is supposed to be written to pref file every time an app closes. Why Finale doesn't do that, is beyond me :-( I had a hard time with the new coloured buttons in OSX when I first started. I couldn't figure out

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chris, Presumably the Zoom button in AppleWorks doesn't zoom to an 8.5x11 page if you have a different page size selected for the active document? If not, that's a bug. With Safari, the zoom button takes you to the minimum width specified by the web page, and the minimum height needed to di

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Jari Williamsson
Darcy James Argue wrote: Quite apart from the fact that Finale ignores OS X conventions here, it's an incredible pain in the ass when you open up a set of 18 parts and have to maximize 17 of them. So are you saying that the "Maximize" check box in "Program Options/New" isn't functional? Or doesn

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Simon Troup
> > Darcy James Argue: > > > > Quite apart from the fact that Finale ignores OS X conventions > > here, it's an incredible pain in the ass when you open up a set of > > 18 parts and have to maximize 17 of them. > Jari Williamsson: > > So are you saying that the "Maximize" check box in "Program > O

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 03 Mar 2005, at 7:28 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: Quite apart from the fact that Finale ignores OS X conventions here, it's an incredible pain in the ass when you open up a set of 18 parts and have to maximize 17 of them. So are you saying that the "Maximize" check box

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, Presumably the Zoom button in AppleWorks doesn't zoom to an 8.5x11 page if you have a different page size selected for the active document? If not, that's a bug. With Safari, the zoom button takes you to the minimum width specified

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chris, There's a good example of my confusion. The window goes to the minimum width, good. However, the height is about half of my screen, with a scroll bar appearing on the right, even though I am able to manually resize the window so that the entire contents appear WITHOUT a scroll bar. Th

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, There's a good example of my confusion. The window goes to the minimum width, good. However, the height is about half of my screen, with a scroll bar appearing on the right, even though I am able to manually resize the window so that

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:33 AM 3/2/05 +, Simon Troup wrote: >Professional applications don't need multiple choices of >icons types, or different desktop choices. One simple, >well designed set of icons would suffice. The whole rosewood >desktop and vellum paper idea borrowed from sibelius is totally >unnecess

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Simon Troup
> I have no idea if most users heavily personalize their workspace while > depending on the operating system's common actions. Much of what you say makes sense to me as what you are attempting to do is maximise workspace. I'm not sure about Adobe applications on Windows but to me the Mac version