Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-20 Thread GERALD BERG
Jerry Gerald Berg From: dershem To: finale list Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 11:30:09 PM Subject: [Finale] Non-linear melodies I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope".  It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. 

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-19 Thread Lawrence Yates
I once played a professional "muddy field" gig. When we came to Pomp and Stomp (Land of Hope and Glory) the principal horn asked me if I knew the "one note" version. I said no. "Just listen a while, then join in". The section played the tune hocket style, one note each, and after a few bars I wa

RE: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Griffiths
[mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Horace Brock Sent: 19 August 2010 02:53 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies I haven't written anything like that, but I know of a piece. Eldon Rathburn's "Canadian Brass Rag" is like that. My quintet couldn't p

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Horace Brock
I haven't written anything like that, but I know of a piece. Eldon Rathburn's "Canadian Brass Rag" is like that. My quintet couldn't play it. Horace Brock On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:30:09 -0700, you wrote: >I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is >... unique. > >No one

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread John Howell
At 8:30 PM -0700 8/17/10, dershem wrote: I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. It's all just notes spread across the band in varying rhythms, and you have to have the whole band playing in precise rhythm to allow th

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Chuck Israels
Thanks, David. My German's not so good, and I misunderstood the musical meaning too. Learn things here. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 9:49 AM, "David W. Fenton" wrote: > On 18 Aug 2010 at 7:54, Chuck Israels wrote: > >> "Klangfarbenmelodie" (sp?) melody made of bells - Schoe

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Aug 2010 at 7:54, Chuck Israels wrote: > "Klangfarbenmelodie" (sp?) melody made of bells - Schoenberg. That's not what the term means. It means "tone-color melody" and Schoenberg's Five Pieces (Op. 16) are the textbook example, where orchestration and tone color are the metaphorical "melo

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ah, hocketing at its best ... Dean On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Chris Bell wrote: I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. It's all just notes spread across the band in varying rhythms, and you have to have the

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Bell
I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. It's all just notes spread across the band in varying rhythms, and you have to have the whole band playing in precise rhythm to allow the audience to be able to hear the mel

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Chuck Israels
"Klangfarbenmelodie" (sp?) melody made of bells - Schoenberg. I wrote a big band piece using that technique in 1968. The last movement did this at a pretty fast tempo with jazz rhythms. Some of the snippets were two to four notes long, but the effect at the fast tempo was pretty much what Car

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue Aug 17, at TuesdayAug 17 11:30 PM, dershem wrote: I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. It's all just notes spread across the band in varying rhythms, and you have to have the whole band playing in preci

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Wed, August 18, 2010 8:39 am, Barbara Touburg wrote: > It was first done in the Middle Ages. It was called Hoketus. Traditional Central African hocket as well -- sung by children! Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
On 18-8-2010 5:30, dershem wrote: I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. It's all just notes spread across the band in varying rhythms, and you have to have the whole band playing in precise rhythm to allow the audien

Re: [Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-17 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Yep. It's called pointillism--Anton Webern was a wiz at it. Aaron J. Rabushka arabus...@austin.rr.com - Original Message - From: "dershem" To: "finale list" Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:30 PM Subject: [Finale] Non-linear melodies I was recently given

[Finale] Non-linear melodies

2010-08-17 Thread dershem
I was recently given a copy of Willie Maiden's "Kaleidoscope". It is ... unique. No one part has the melody line. It's all just notes spread across the band in varying rhythms, and you have to have the whole band playing in precise rhythm to allow the audience to be able to hear the melody