Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso

2009-08-28 Thread Howard Weiner
At 19:15 27.08.2009 -0400, Ray Horton wrote: Two separate instruments were developed in the latter 1800s - the BBb slide contrabass trombone for Wagner and the BBb valved trombone basso - which has come to be labeled cimbasso - for Verdi. I have not seen an historical example of the latter

Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso

2009-08-28 Thread Ray Horton
Arrgh! I thought I was covering myself, and not opening up this huge can of worms, by saying Verdi's valve contrabass trombone has come to be labeled 'cimbasso.' I should have said it came to have the older, confusing term of uncertain origin 'cimbasso' often attached to it. As long as

Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso

2009-08-28 Thread Howard Weiner
At 07:32 28.08.2009 -0400, Ray Horton wrote: As long as we are this far OT, Howard, to me, according to Meucci, the real kicker is that, in Verdi's suggestion of an ophecleide (if his valve contrabass trombone were not available), ophecleide by this time may actually refer to the pelittone,

Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso

2009-08-28 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
http://www.musikhaus-syhre.de/html/body_ophikleide.html http://www.orsi-wind-instruments.it/tuba.htm Klaus --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Howard Weiner h.wei...@online.de wrote: From: Howard Weiner h.wei...@online.de Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso To: finale@shsu.edu, finale@shsu.edu Date

Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso

2009-08-28 Thread Ray Horton
...@online.de Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso To: finale@shsu.edu, finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 3:15 PM At 07:32 28.08.2009 -0400, Ray Horton wrote: As long as we are this far OT, Howard, to me, according to Meucci, the real kicker is that, in Verdi's suggestion

Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso

2009-08-28 Thread Ray Horton
: Howard Weiner h.wei...@online.de Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: cimbasso To: finale@shsu.edu, finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 3:15 PM At 07:32 28.08.2009 -0400, Ray Horton wrote: As long as we are this far OT, Howard, to me, according to Meucci, the real kicker