On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Michael Cook wrote:
The curious "feature" with the accidentals that jump around (the logic
is described in detail by Mark) existed from the beginning of Finale
until version 2003. It was changed in Finale 2004: in all versions
from 2004 onwards, nudging one accide
Works like a charm in 2005. It's not related to the choice of font but the
"use cross-layer accidental positioning" option in accidental document
options. I don't think you have it in '04.
Don Hart
on 7/21/05 11:03 AM, Andrew Stiller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:28 P
Thank you so much, Michael!
Is there a better, more thorough way for Finale to inform us of significant
improvements and changes in an upgrade that don't fall into the realm of
marketing to new users?
This feature seems to be something no one on this list knew about, but at
least a few were clamo
On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
Don,
I saw the later message from MakeMusic blaming this on the Petrucci
font, but I wonder if that's really right. I'm in Fin Mac 2k2 using
Maestro, and I get all the same behavior you describe.
And I get it with Engraver in FinMac 2K4.
And
Great, Michael!
I belong to those who were trying (in silence...) to find the trick.
Well, it wasn't inconstancy nor a bug...
Furthermore, this discussion gave the opportunity to discover (again...?) some possibilities of the program.
I didn't know what one can do by doubleclicking the handle (Ac
I've found the factor that decides if Finale treats accidentals the
"old" or new" way. It's governed by this setting:
Document Options > Accidentals: Use Cross-Layer Accidental Positioning.
If you open one of your older templates in 2005 you should see that
this option is not turned on: turn i
Yes, Mark. I quickly put a test file together yesterday, and entered two
and three note chords with an accidental on each note. Each accidental on
each chord could be moved independently of the other accidentals. How about
that?
This test file should be virtual "out of the box" default Finale 2
The curious "feature" with the accidentals that jump around (the logic
is described in detail by Mark) existed from the beginning of Finale
until version 2003. It was changed in Finale 2004: in all versions from
2004 onwards, nudging one accidental should not cause the others to
move. It's norm
On Jul 20, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Don Hart wrote:
I also changed Maestro to Petrucci in the test file that worked
properly and
it continued to be OK.
What do you mean by "worked properly"? Are you saying that in another
file you can nudge the innermost accidental on a chord and the other
acci
On 21 Jul 2005 at 0:20, Don Hart wrote:
> I'm using mac 2005a.
>
> I just now changed Petrucci to Maestro in a copy of my original file and
> nothing changed.
>
> I also changed Maestro to Petrucci in the test file that worked properly and
> it continued to be OK.
>
> Hmmm...
Doesn't somethi
On 20 Jul 2005 at 18:07, Don Hart wrote:
> David, maybe some of your problems are related as well, though I would
> expect that converting files created in older versions is more problematic
> than nursing along a template through the years.
None of my files use Petrucci any more. The ones that s
Mark,
I'm using mac 2005a.
I just now changed Petrucci to Maestro in a copy of my original file and
nothing changed.
I also changed Maestro to Petrucci in the test file that worked properly and
it continued to be OK.
Hmmm...
When I have a chance I'll try to compare settings between the origi
On Jul 20, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Don Hart wrote:
I just heard back from tech support on this and Gary said he couldn't
recreate my problem.
Funny, I was able to recreate it just fine.
As I mentioned in the other post, I doubt that this is related to your
template or the Petrucci font. What ve
Don,
I saw the later message from MakeMusic blaming this on the Petrucci
font, but I wonder if that's really right. I'm in Fin Mac 2k2 using
Maestro, and I get all the same behavior you describe. With one
exception all of it seems "normal" to me -- normal according Finale's
quirky way of ap
Gary at tech support asked to see my problem file and after looking at it
had this to say:
Dear Don,
Thanks for sending the file. The problem is with the Petrucci
font which used to be Finale's default music font. If you change the
Default Music Font to Maestro or Engraver the acc
On 20 Jul 2005 at 14:59, Don Hart wrote:
> I just heard back from tech support on this and Gary said he couldn't
> recreate my problem. The file I was working in originated in a template put
> together a long time ago, so I made a new file with the set up wizard to
> experiment with. The behavio
Hi all,
I just heard back from tech support on this and Gary said he couldn't
recreate my problem. The file I was working in originated in a template put
together a long time ago, so I made a new file with the set up wizard to
experiment with. The behavior I reported was not present in the new f
Hi Mark,
Here's the problem as stated in my original post:
Try this:
-- Enter a chord in the treble clef consisting of F sharp, G sharp up a
second, C sharp up a fourth, built up from the top line F sharp. Show
all three accidentals.
-- Go to the "Accidental Mover Tool" in
On Jul 20, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Don Hart wrote:
Did you recreate the examples I originally offered?
No. You'll have to tell me what they are again. I don't save old
messages here. I'm not sure I even saw the beginning of this thread.
In some instances one
nudge plops an accidental direct
Hi Mark,
Thanks for your thorough reply. I see what I would describe as a warped
consistency in what you've described, but understanding this behavior, at
least as it applies to my given examples, doesn't help with the extra work
created.
Did you recreate the examples I originally offered? In s
On Jul 19, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Don Hart wrote:
Finale's behavior in editing accidentals is weird and inconsistent,
causing
edits to be a lot harder to perform than they should be.
Weird yes, inconsistent no.
Every accidental has an associated horizontal offset value [*]. If
that value is no
Hi Rudi,
Finale's behavior in editing accidentals is weird and inconsistent, causing
edits to be a lot harder to perform than they should be. I think the
"post-nudge" position agreeing with Read is little more than coincidence.
Try lowering my example one octave and nudge the F sharp. Observe th
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 Don Hart wrote:
>-- Select the handle for the F sharp and nudge once, either left or right.
When I do this the F sharp and the G sharp swap position. (According to
Alfred's "Essential Dictionary of Music Notation" the "pre-nudge" position
is correct. I can't quickly find Gard
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