Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-16 Thread dhbailey
Carl Dershem wrote: John Bell wrote: On 16 Apr 2005, at 01:11, Richard Yates wrote: But then again, how do you celebrate the lack of something? 'Yes, We Have No Bananas" Or: I Got Plenty o' Nuttin'? "Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'" "and nothin' ain't worth nothin', but it's free..." -- David

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-16 Thread dhbailey
John Bell wrote: On 16 Apr 2005, at 01:11, Richard Yates wrote: But then again, how do you celebrate the lack of something? 'Yes, We Have No Bananas" Or: I Got Plenty o' Nuttin'? But is that really a lack? The singer, after all, feels he has "plenty." -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Carl Dershem
John Bell wrote: On 16 Apr 2005, at 01:11, Richard Yates wrote: But then again, how do you celebrate the lack of something? 'Yes, We Have No Bananas" Or: I Got Plenty o' Nuttin'? "Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'" ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.e

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread John Bell
On 16 Apr 2005, at 01:11, Richard Yates wrote: But then again, how do you celebrate the lack of something? 'Yes, We Have No Bananas" Or: I Got Plenty o' Nuttin'? John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Carl Dershem
Richard Yates wrote: But then again, how do you celebrate the lack of something? 'Yes, We Have No Bananas" Eeeek! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Richard Yates
> But then again, how do you celebrate the lack of something? 'Yes, We Have No Bananas" Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Fair enough, I would say. Thanks, Dean On Apr 15, 2005, at 8:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "There are some people, I suspect, who would feel obscurely cheated if, when they finally arrived in heaven, they found everybody else there as well. Heaven would not be heaven unless those who reached

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 15, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Carl Donsbach wrote: Maybe it would have been more accurate to say that no great musical work would ever be written celebrating atheism? But then Brahms had not experienced the 20th century. I can't think of any, but wouldn't be surprised (very). Carmina Burana?

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Apr 2005, at 12:03 PM, Carl Donsbach wrote: Maybe it would have been more accurate to say that no great musical work would ever be written celebrating atheism? Randy Newman, _God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind)_ http://tinyurl.com/7drkt - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY __

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Carl Donsbach
Maybe it would have been more accurate to say that no great musical work would ever be written celebrating atheism? But then Brahms had not experienced the 20th century. I can't think of any, but wouldn't be surprised (very). --On Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:57 PM -0700 Mark D Lew <[EMAIL PR

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread richard.bartkus
> "There are some people, I suspect, who would feel > obscurely cheated if, when they finally arrived in > heaven, they found everybody else there as well. > Heaven would not be heaven unless those who reached it > could peer over the celestial parapets and watch other > unfortunates roasti

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-15 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Well, the pacifist B. Britten was drawn to the War Requiem text to decry the atrocities of war ... but I get your point, which is well taken. Dean On Apr 14, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Apr 13, 2005, at 1:42 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I happen to know at least two very well known c

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 13, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: If one accepts that the Rite of Spring is better music than Symphony of Psalms. Emphatically. I tend to prefer choral music, but definitely not here. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http:

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 13, 2005, at 1:42 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I happen to know at least two very well known choral conductors (self-professed as Godless) who perform sacred music with their choirs in a manner which would bring saints to tears (if one admits the possibility of their existence in the fi

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread Raymond Horton
David W. Fenton wrote: Raymond Horton écrit: During some quick research Internet yesterday when I couldn't answer the question myself, it would appear that Stravinsky, for example, may have been an atheist as a young man (the three great ballets) and experienced a conversion during the 1920

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 13, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: OK. I'm going to try to make one more reply on this subject, then withstand the final barrage and not be tempted to try to have the last word (which is quite difficult for me). I'm pretty sure that the reason I quoted the most inflammatory part

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I happen to know at least two very well known choral conductors (self-professed as Godless) who perform sacred music with their choirs in a manner which would bring saints to tears (if one admits the possibility of their existence in the first place). Why not atheistic composers setting sacr

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Apr 2005 at 13:18, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > On Apr 13, 2005, at 12:55 PM, d. collins wrote: > > > Raymond Horton écrit: > >> During some quick research Internet yesterday when I couldn't > >> answer > >> the question myself, it would appear that Stravinsky, for example, > >> may have b

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
If one accepts that the Rite of Spring is better music than Symphony of Psalms. Dean On Apr 13, 2005, at 12:55 PM, d. collins wrote: Raymond Horton écrit: During some quick research Internet yesterday when I couldn't answer the question myself, it would appear that Stravinsky, for example, may

Re: [Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread Raymond Horton
OK. I'm going to try to make one more reply on this subject, then withstand the final barrage and not be tempted to try to have the last word (which is quite difficult for me). I'm pretty sure that the reason I quoted the most inflammatory part of Brahms quite-thought-provoking total remarks

[Finale] Re: oh god...

2005-04-13 Thread jef chippewa
From: Raymond Horton Actually, for anyone who cares to actually READ the book before categorically rejecting what Brahms and the others have to say based on a few small excerpts... thing is, that was how it was presented, are we to simply accept it as gospel based on its brevity, but aren't perm