After a software product becomes mature, control passes from engineers to
managers and marketers. This happens to every software I've ever worked
with, including my own. It will happen to Dorico too, eventually.
Yeah, the dongle is a deal breaker for me.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:37 PM Eric Danne
Yes, I would agree too. TGTools and other plugins make Finale perfectly fine
for doing music.
And it doesn’t require some stupid dongle to run on multiple computer.
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Robert Patterson
> wrote:
>
> It seems as though the point of my plugin post is being lost. The
On 1/31/2019 4:37 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
[snip]> Nevertheless I would also dispute that the current dev staff at
Makemusic
lacks commitment or talent. On the contrary, my dealings with them reveal a
talented staff that knows the code base and is committed to improving it.
If there are leade
On Thu, January 31, 2019 4:37 pm, Robert Patterson wrote:
> What you absolutely *can't* do in Finale is multi-turn slurs like Dorico
> apparently has.
Oh, I so want these still. The gateway to flat slurs.
Dennis
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It seems as though the point of my plugin post is being lost. The point was
that with 3rd-party plugins you can design a work flow in Finale that is
highly efficient. That Dorico can achieve comparable efficiency out of the
box is to its credit, but my point is that it is quite possible to achieve
Here are my most used plugins (JW and Patterson):
Copy Part Layout - native in Dorico
Instrument Change - native in Dorico
Kitchen Department - native in Dorico
Start New Piece - native in Dorico
Yada Yada Tremelo - easily achieved and customised in Dorico
Settings Scrapbook - I only used this to
Craig makes some very important points. Added to the fact that Finale
is basically frozen in time is it's horrible corporate history, having
been sold from company to company because nobody has any idea what to do
with it. There is a very real fear that someday whichever company owns
Finale a
If Finale were doing any significant developments to their product I'm
sure we would be happy to talk about that. It is the fact that Finale
is basically frozen in time that causes people to think about what other
options are available and practical.
In the case of this thread, the main quest
Hi all,
It seems to me that this is 'Finale mailing list', not '... mailing list'.
Thank you in advance for your kind attention,
all best,
Paolo A. Rismondo
Il 30/01/2019 21:04, Craig Parmerlee ha scritto:
Just to add a tidbit or two, there is currently no way in Dorico to
have 2 parts share
Just to add a tidbit or two, there is currently no way in Dorico to have
2 parts share a staff in the score and still have them go to separate
parts. As Steve says, it is actually pretty easy to write two separate
parts, then add a third player. Select all the music from the two
separate parts
Everything I have has been edited at least a little. Maybe a good
demonstration would be for somebody to send me a MusicXML file. I'll
import it into Dorico and post the score and parts with no editing.
On 1/28/2019 10:13 AM, Thomas Schaller wrote:
Craig, would you consider posting PDFs o
Craig, would you consider posting PDFs of a score and a part page and show us
what Dorico produces without having tweaked much?
Personally I’m more interested to see an orchestra piece.
Thanks,
Thomas Schaller
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>
> Yes, it is a big learning
Hi Christoper,
This is something that is promised. You can easily set divisi passages with
extra staves. As far as cuing goes, you select something in the part and choose
from a list of which instrument(s) you want cued.
As it stands now, I still find combining instruments into a staff to be e
Steve,
Thanks for the info. Are you saying that Dorico handles two instruments per
score staff, but with individual parts separated, including cues and solos,
very well? (I find this is a weakness in Finale).
Christopher
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Steve Parker wrote:
>
> I’m now using D
I’m now using Dorico for all new projects. Dorico’s ability to have distinct
pieces in one file (‘flows’) that can be reordered saves so much time. For each
layout, these can be set to continue on the same page or to start a new page,
both with header information. Dorico handles cue superbly. Th
Yes, it is a big learning curve. I never really learned Sibelius, and I
haven't learned MuseScore, so I can't really compare the size of the
learning curve. My guess is the Dorico learning curve is more difficult
for advanced Finale users of long standing:
1) Because Dorico is considerably m
Many thanks for taking the time to give us these explanations, Craig. And
to you, Robert, for your answer to my question as well.
— Mike
On January 26, 2019 at 5:01:52 PM, Craig Parmerlee (cr...@parmerlee.com)
wrote:
> Here are some observations about each of the plug-in examples. Let me
> stip
Thanks Craig. Most informative.
GJB
On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 5:02 PM, Craig Parmerlee
wrote:
Here are some observations about each of the plug-in examples. Let me
stipulate that the Finale plug-ins might provide some unusual visual
results that aren't directly matched by Dorico, so I
Craig,
Thank you for sharing these thoughts. You have made much more progress
with Dorico than I have made, so I didn't feel qualified to respond.
But I'm glad you were able to make the comparisons.
I know that becoming better acquainted with Dorico is in my imminent
future, but most of the
Here are some observations about each of the plug-in examples. Let me
stipulate that the Finale plug-ins might provide some unusual visual
results that aren't directly matched by Dorico, so I am not claiming
equivalence on any of these.
1. Copy arbitrary material regardless of barlines, etc.
Many that I described are plugins that I developed myself and are available
in the Patterson Plugins Collection at my website. Some are in the full
version of TGTools. Some are available as free downloads on Jari
Williamsson's website.
On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 11:03 AM Michael Meyer wrote:
> So R
So Robert, when you say “3rd party plugin” do you mean plugins that others
have made that you’ve procured along the way? Or “3rd party” meaning “not
included in the included Finale plugins” and so you have made all of these
on your own?
Just a question out of curiosity more than anything. Thanks f
Besides the Patterson Beams, TGTools, and JW plugins included in Finale, I
use 3rd party plugins to
1. Copy arbitrary combinations and patterns of expressions, dynamics,
articulations, and other elements in a repeated fashion, independent of
barlines, both vertically and horizontally.
2. Mass Rel
This is an interesting discussion….I am interested in hearing what 3rd party
plugins are you referring to, Robert. I am always looking for ways to
automate Finale.
Larry Eden
> On Jan 25, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Robert Patterson
> wrote:
>
> I would be very interested to know more specifics abo
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