Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 27, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Lon Price wrote: I'm working on a piece by Paganini for a client, and his handling of tuplets got me wondering about the standards for notating them. This piece is a theme and variations, and when he writes sextuplets the first two show the numbers, and then he l

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2006 at 22:29, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Jun 27, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Lon Price wrote: > > > I'm working on a piece by Paganini for a client, and his handling of > > tuplets got me wondering about the standards for notating them. > > This piece is a theme and variations, and when he w

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Lon Price wrote: I'm working on a piece by Paganini for a client, and his handling of tuplets got me wondering about the standards for notating them. This piece is a theme and variations, and when he writes sextuplets the first two show the numbers, and then he leaves them off, which I know i

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread John Howell
At 4:00 AM -0500 6/28/06, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Lon Price wrote: I'm working on a piece by Paganini for a client, and his handling of tuplets got me wondering about the standards for notating them. This piece is a theme and variations, and when he writes sextuplets the first two show the num

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 27, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Lon Price wrote: the finale he has sextuplets (no number), then a septuplet (still no number), then 8 16ths in the time of 4, and finally 9 16ths in the time of 4. It's my understanding of the rule for tuplets is that the number of tuplets in one beat should not

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jun 2006 at 4:00, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Lon Price wrote: > > I'm working on a piece by Paganini for a client, and his handling of > > tuplets got me wondering about the standards for notating them. > > This piece is a theme and variations, and when he writes sextuplets > > the first two

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jun 2006 at 12:55, John Howell wrote: > At 4:00 AM -0500 6/28/06, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > >Lon Price wrote: > >>I'm working on a piece by Paganini for a client, and his handling of > >>tuplets got me wondering about the standards for notating them. This > >>piece is a theme and variations,

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread Lon Price
On Jun 28, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:As to the question of what is correct *now*, things are not quite as simple as you suggest.  In particular, the proper number of beams for a septuplet has been a vexed question for a very long time. Many composers follow the rule you cite, that a t

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
John Howell wrote: I may not completely understand the flow of technological changes, which is why I ask this question. The "period when music was generated with handset type," to the best of my knowledge, was the 16th and early 17th centuries. A little off on the end; the last piece of music

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jun 2006 at 18:21, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > John Howell wrote: > > I may not completely understand the flow of technological changes, > > which is why I ask this question. The "period when music was > > generated with handset type," to the best of my knowledge, was the > > 16th and early 1

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: I don't dispute your examples of typeset music, but they are *outliers* in terms of normal practice after the period John mentions. The hymnal and choral octavo _are_ outliers, and I intended them as such. However, I have found that handset type was common until about

Re: [Finale] Tuplet notation

2006-06-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jun 2006 at 6:41, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > I don't dispute your examples of typeset music, but they are > > *outliers* in terms of normal practice after the period John > > mentions. > > > The hymnal and choral octavo _are_ outliers, and I intended them as >