Wow! Now it all comes back! I'm not sure if you deserve thanks tho'
Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 10-Apr-06, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have evidence,
Wow! Now it all comes back! I'm not sure if you deserve thanks tho'
Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 10-Apr-06, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have
Wow! Now it all comes back! I'm not sure if you deserve thanks tho'
Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 10-Apr-06, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have
For those not in the know.
A double double refers to double cream and double sugar in one's
coffee. I think it may be an eastern Canadian thing. I never heard it
said on the west coast. One thing is definitely Ontario is the call
for a 'regular' coffee -- which means one cream and one
To sadly counter that argument, I submit the girl who sang at an all-state
solo/ensemble competition, Let's call the whole thing off. She sang it
thusly:
You say to-may-toh and I say to-may-toh
You say poh-tay-toh and I say poh-tay-toh.
To-may-toh, to-may-toh, poh-tay-toh, poh-tay-toh,
At 8:47 AM -0500 4/10/06, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
To sadly counter that argument, I submit the girl who sang at an all-state
solo/ensemble competition, Let's call the whole thing off. She sang it
thusly:
You say to-may-toh and I say to-may-toh
You say poh-tay-toh and I say poh-tay-toh.
Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
To sadly counter that argument, I submit the girl who sang at an all-state
solo/ensemble competition, Let's call the whole thing off. She sang it
thusly:
You say to-may-toh and I say to-may-toh
You say poh-tay-toh and I say poh-tay-toh.
To-may-toh, to-may-toh,
I will bet you a dollar this story is just an urban legend.
- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
On 10 Apr 2006, at 9:47 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
To sadly counter that argument, I submit the girl who sang at an
all-state
solo/ensemble
I'd believe you if it wasn't told to me by my friend who was judging the
competition. Sad, but true.
-Scot Hanna-Weir
On 4/10/06 9:35 AM, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will bet you a dollar this story is just an urban legend.
- Darcy
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I guess I owe you a dollar, Scot.
- Darcy
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On 10 Apr 2006, at 10:38 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
I'd believe you if it wasn't told to me by my friend who was
judging the
competition. Sad, but true.
-Scot Hanna-Weir
On
I might believe you if it was you who was judging the competition. As
it is my dollar goes on Darcy. I certainly heard the story long ago.
John
On 10 Apr 2006, at 10:38 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
I'd believe you if it wasn't told to me by my friend who was
judging the
competition. Sad,
Here's a double double
A few years back (if a few Canadians recall) MacDonald's briefly used
the Brecht/Weil tune Mack the Knife as an advertising jingle -- seems
what it was really about slipped by them. Then, in a local paper, a
person wrote in decrying the fact that they had just ruined
What, you mean TWO different people can't screw up the same song at
different competitions? I amazed -- I didn't know there was a quota on
such mistakes. :-)
David H. Bailey
John Bell wrote:
I might believe you if it was you who was judging the competition. As
it is my dollar goes on
At 01:07 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
A few years back (if a few Canadians recall) MacDonald's briefly used
the Brecht/Weil tune Mack the Knife as an advertising jingle -- seems
what it was really about slipped by them. Then, in a local paper, a
person wrote in decrying the fact that
On Apr 10, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Gerald Berg wrote:
Here's a double double
Hey, one would have to be Canadian just to understand your opening
reference!
Christopher
(Tim Horton for President of Canada!)
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Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
Jerry
On 10-Apr-06, at 1:35 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 01:07 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
A few years back (if a few Canadians recall) MacDonald's briefly used
the Brecht/Weil tune Mack
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have evidence, which David just unearthed from his collection:
http://maltedmedia.com/photos/mac_1a.jpg
http://maltedmedia.com/photos/mac_2a.jpg
Worse and
Holy Brian Mulroney's chin, Batman! That looks like Jay Leno!
Christopher
On Apr 10, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
I have evidence, which David just unearthed from his collection:
http://maltedmedia.com/photos/mac_1a.jpg
http://maltedmedia.com/photos/mac_2a.jpg
On Apr 7, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
If there are no notated pitches, it is not music.
It is performance art.
Which brings us back around to percussion ensembles again. Since we've
now come more than full circle, don't you think its time we gave this
topic a rest?
Andrew
On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Apr 7, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
If there are no notated pitches, it is not music.
It is performance art.
Thanks for making my point.
Phil, where in the world did you get such a narrow definition of
music? I don't know
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:55 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 1:25 PM -0400 4/7/06, Phil Daley wrote:
It is performance art.
I still maintain that there is no such thing, but if you enjoy the
euphony of the words, enjoy them! Just don't look for semantic
content.
Now you're being as bad as
On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Whenever the speaking of songs instead of singing them is the topic,
I'm always reminded of Rex Harrison as Professor Higgins in the London
stage production of My Fair Lady. He had a wonderful speaking voice,
but you get the definite
At 4/7/2006 11:33 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Whenever the speaking of songs instead of singing them is the topic,
I'm always reminded of Rex Harrison as Professor Higgins in the London
stage production of My Fair Lady. He had a wonderful
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
My question is, could you have notated a part for Professors Higgins,
such that, a performer unaware of previous performances, could have
replicated that part?
I almost sounds as if you're assuming that Rex Harrison's particular
interpretation
On Apr 7, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
My question is, could you have notated a part for Professors Higgins,
such that, a performer unaware of previous performances, could have
replicated that part?
Short answer, yes.
The score of My Fair Lady has parts (not all) of HIggins'
At 4/7/2006 01:05 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Apr 7, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
My question is, could you have notated a part for Professors Higgins,
such that, a performer unaware of previous performances, could have
replicated that part?
Well yes, of course: you'd write the
At 4/7/2006 01:07 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
But what does our interest in notating it have to do with anything? I
wrote it down because I had to, like a lot of what I do, not because I
was particularly interested in it. The fact that is WAS notatable is
not germane to any real definition of
On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
If there are no notated pitches, it is not music.
Hmmmn. There have been quite a few drum solos I've heard, and un-
pitched percussion compositions, that I'd be loathe to exclude from
the experiences I think of as music.
Chuck
It is
Well, whereas rap is music, music is not necessarily notated. So, to answer
your question...er, not me. (though I actually have, that's the funny
part).
-Scot Hanna-Weir
Music Engraver
A-R Editions, Inc.
Middleton, WI
www.areditions.com
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On 4/7/06 11:38 AM, Phil Daley [EMAIL
I think you are giving music notation way more credit than it deserves. I'm
probably saying this on the wrong board, but it'd really, as others said, be
a shame to have such a constraining definition of what music is. So much
20th century music that is very much music almost defies notation. I'm
On Apr 7, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
If there are no notated pitches, it is not music.
It is performance art.
Thanks for making my point.
Phil, where in the world did you get such a narrow definition of music?
I don't know ANYONE who defines music so narrowly.
For that matter,
Mark D Lew wrote:
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
My question is, could you have notated a part for Professors Higgins,
such that, a performer unaware of previous performances, could have
replicated that part?
I almost sounds as if you're assuming that Rex Harrison's
Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/7/2006 01:05 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Apr 7, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
My question is, could you have notated a part for Professors Higgins,
such that, a performer unaware of previous performances, could have
replicated that part?
Well yes,
Chuck Israels wrote:
On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
If there are no notated pitches, it is not music.
Hmmmn. There have been quite a few drum solos I've heard, and un-
pitched percussion compositions, that I'd be loathe to exclude from the
experiences I think of as
I'm sure Phil is perfectly aware that claiming there was no music
before there was music notation is an indefensible position. It's
just that his hatred of rap, rappers, illegal immigrants, African
percussion and the like have gotten him backed into a corner.
- Darcy
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[EMAIL
At 12:38 PM -0400 4/7/06, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/7/2006 11:33 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Indeed he could not. Having him speak the lyrics in rhythm was a
desperate kludge that turned out to be perfect for the character. Each
of the songs does in fact have a clear melody that you can hear in
At 1:25 PM -0400 4/7/06, Phil Daley wrote:
If there are no notated pitches, it is not music.
Hmm. My music history class was listening to Cowell's The Banshee
this afternoon. Do you happen to know how its pitches are notated?
And do you consider Shoenberg's Sprechtstimme music? Would you
guessing yes and Rex Harrison just did not have the ear for it (or he chose to speak not sing pitches)... anyone know that score?
-Steve
NYC
In a message dated 4/6/06 4:53:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Peter Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy
To: final
I never meant to imply that one thread is influenced by the other. I'm
just saying that if rap is broadly defined as the general art of rhythmic recitation of
verse -- which I think is a reasonable definition -- then there has been plenty of rap
throughout history besides the current
They may have come before the genre we call rap, but I fail to see
any difference whatsoever in the musical content involved, except for
the underlying musical style. They are both words spoken rhythmically
to musical accompaniment, where the delivery may have definite pitch
contours at times
On 04 Apr 2006, at 3:58 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
The rhythms are complex because there is no discipline.
What a breathtakingly ignorant statement.
- Darcy
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- Rap and hip hop aren't quite the same thing, ...
Thus, one might reasonably say that the parlato songs
in The Music Man are a form of rap (but not hip hop); while on the
other hand a certain style of clothing might be described as hip hop
(but not rap).
Ah ha! So, there you make a
On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:58 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
Current commercial (c)rap - not that I can bear to listen to it for
long - is sloppy and irregular in metre, and has either non-rhymes
such as time and fine, or other symptoms of illiteracy.
I love assonance. One of the reasons I have
What a breathtakingly ignorant statement.
OOh! rap is great high art eh?
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On 04 Apr 2006, at 4:38 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
What a breathtakingly ignorant statement.
OOh! rap is great high art eh?
Well, that's a separate question (several questions, actually) that's
got nothing to do with what you actually wrote, nor my response.
But enlighten us.
hello Mark,
Thanks for addressing the argument, instead of smart alec comments like a few
others.
I too enjoy assonance. I happen to feel that a lot of the rhymes in rap are not
assonance, but merely close enough. One time there is a perfect rhymne, another time you
dignify it with the
Robert C L Watson wrote:
They may have come before the genre we call rap, but I fail to see
any difference whatsoever in the musical content involved, except for
the underlying musical style. They are both words spoken rhythmically
to musical accompaniment, where the delivery may have
Please tell us which rappers
fit any word and words desired into 4/4 time
without regard to rhythmic placement. Be specific.
It would take up too much bandwidth to list them all
...
:-)
Besides which, this discussion is so far off topic. I'm done.
Do you really mean to assert that Shakespeare or Swinburne never
stretch-ed [2 syllables] words to make them fit?
'twas once upon a time actually pronounced that way.
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On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:32 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:58 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
Current commercial (c)rap - not that I can bear to listen to it for
long - is sloppy and irregular in metre, and has either non-rhymes
such as time and fine, or other symptoms of illiteracy.
On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:17 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
More generally, what I love about rap is how it explores the beauty
of the spoken language, in a way that one can't achieve with poetry
or music alone.
Frankly, I have difficulty understanding what they are trying to say.
That
On 4 Apr 2006 at 4:38, Robert C L Watson wrote:
[Darcy, unattributed, saying something with which I wholeheartedly
agree:]
What a breathtakingly ignorant statement.
OOh! rap is great high art eh?
Some of might be, some of it clearly isn't.
Just like all genres of music.
But of course,
On 4 Apr 2006 at 5:46, Robert C L Watson wrote:
[Darcy, again unattributed:]
Please tell us which rappers
fit any word and words desired into 4/4 time
without regard to rhythmic placement. Be specific.
It would take up too much bandwidth to list them all
Supply ONE example then.
There was a young woman named Bea
Who was stung on the arm by a wasp.
When asked, Does it hurt?
She replied, Yes, it does.
I'm just glad it wasn't a hornet!
Ooh! Ooh! Then we must also quote the immortal:
There was a young lady of Diss
Who went down to the water to swim.
The men in a punt
dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you really mean to assert that Shakespeare or Swinburne never
stretch-ed [2 syllables] words to make them fit? Nor ever contracted
them just to squeeze them in? When did ever become one syllable
e'er I would like to know?
That's not the best example,
At 3:58 AM -0400 4/4/06, Robert C L Watson wrote:
They may have come before the genre we call rap, but I fail to see
any difference whatsoever in the musical content involved, except for
the underlying musical style. They are both words spoken rhythmically
to musical accompaniment, where the
David W. Fenton iterated
It's *not* fine to use specious arguments to claim there's no art
whatsoever in it.
I never said there's no art whatsoever in it. ;-)
That must have been you.
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Robert C L Watson wrote:
Current commercial (c)rap - not that I can bear to listen to it for
long - is sloppy and irregular in metre, and has either non-rhymes
such as time and fine, or other symptoms of illiteracy. (Back to
the topic of literacy.) Hardly comparable to sophisticated works
Hi, just lurking, but had to say this:
I admit it: I don't like rap. I don't understand it.
It is irritating to me. I prefer real music. So there we are back at what
is music.
I don't understand quantum physics. I prefer Newtonian physics. So am I
qualified to dismiss the work of a century's
On Apr 4, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Robert C L Watson wrote:
Current commercial (c)rap - not that I can bear to listen to it for
long - is sloppy and irregular in metre, and has either non-rhymes
such as time and fine, or other symptoms of illiteracy. (Back to
the topic of
On 04 Apr 2006, at 5:46 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
Please tell us which rappers
fit any word and words desired into 4/4 time
without regard to rhythmic placement. Be specific.
It would take up too much bandwidth to list them all
Okay, name one.
- Darcy
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My favourite poem is that wonderful Haiku by John Cooper Clark;
To express oneselfIn seventeen syllablesIs
very diffic
All the best,
Lawrence
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ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.ukDulcian
Wind Quintet: http://dulcianwind.co.uk
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] music
literacy
My
favourite poem is that wonderful Haiku by John Cooper Clark;
To express oneself
In seventeen syllables
Is very diffic
All the best,
Lawrence
þaes ofereode - þisses
swa maeg
On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
I too enjoy assonance. I happen to feel that a lot of the rhymes in
rap are not assonance, but merely close enough. One time there is a
perfect rhymne, another time you dignify it with the term assonance.
To put it simply, it's like the
At 4/2/2006 10:34 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Apr 2, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/1/2006 08:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
But the requirement Phil is placing on these pieces is completely
arbitrary and if applied honestly would eliminate a lot of the works
he considers to
At 4/2/2006 12:49 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Apr 1, 2006, at 7:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
I thought he asked if different ensembles would sound the same
playing from the score. Given that no two identical percussion
instruments sound precisely the same, I'd say that it's unlikely that
On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/2/2006 10:34 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
What kind of extremely narrow definition of music do you have that
excludes improvisation from music? Or non-pitched elements? Or
difficult-to-notate elements? Or
On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
How about art?
Is the an art masterpiece that is not on canvas?
It's an entirely false analogy. But since you ask: Leonardo's Last
Supper, Michelangelo's David...
John
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At 4/3/2006 06:47 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Didn't we have this argument a year or so ago, and finally settle that
the written sheet music was just the recipe for the actual sound, and
NOT the actual music? Like confusing a recipe for cake with the actual
cake itself.
Opps, sorry, I must
At 6:29 AM -0400 4/3/06, Phil Daley wrote:
Compare it to literature.
Is there a great piece of literature that hasn't been written down?
How about art?
Is the an art masterpiece that is not on canvas?
Invalid comparison. Literature and painting are creative arts. Once
completed, they
I agree that improvisation is not notatable.
Somehow this false assumption got into the thread, and needs to be
expunged.
While it is *arguable* that jazz improvisation cannot be notated (I
don't, myself, agree), it is unquestionable that products of the organ
improvisation tradition, in
At 4/3/2006 01:55 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
I agree that improvisation is not notatable.
Somehow this false assumption got into the thread, and needs to be
expunged.
While it is *arguable* that jazz improvisation cannot be notated (I
don't, myself, agree), it is unquestionable that products
At 16:53 03.04.2006, I wrote:
Invalid comparison. Literature and painting are creative arts.
Once completed, they are what they are. Music (and dance and
theater) are both creative and recreative arts. It is in the
recreation that each such work of art is different, by a little or
by a
John Bell wrote:
On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
How about art?
Is the an art masterpiece that is not on canvas?
It's an entirely false analogy. But since you ask: Leonardo's Last
Supper, Michelangelo's David...
Not to mention the Mona Lisa.
cd
--
On 3 Apr 2006 at 7:29, dhbailey wrote:
I'm not sure what your point is in insisting that something isn't
music if it can't be written down.
I'm not even sure what Phil hopes to accomplish by even making the
assertion, since it doesn't even apply to rap, which can certainly be
written down as
On 3 Apr 2006 at 14:06, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/3/2006 01:55 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
I agree that improvisation is not notatable.
Somehow this false assumption got into the thread, and needs to be
expunged.
While it is *arguable* that jazz improvisation cannot be notated (I
On Apr 2, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/1/2006 08:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
But the requirement Phil is placing on these pieces is completely
arbitrary and if applied honestly would eliminate a lot of the works
he considers to be music.
I agree that improvisation is not
At 8:37 AM -0400 4/2/06, Phil Daley wrote:
But, if an entire piece is improvisation, it is not music, it is
performance art.
Oh darn, there goes Cage and everything aleatoric. And all good
dixieland bands. And here they thought they were playing music!
(Who knows what Cage thought!)
I
On Apr 2, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I must confess that Mark's earlier observation – saying this is not
music is really saying I don't like this music – is starting to
sound more and more true.
Actually I observed only that that's the case for some people. My
larger point
And there go all classical improvisations from Bach over Mozart,
Beethoven, Brahms, even E. T. A. Hoffmann, and of course myself
improvising...;-)
Oh my god! I played a t the church today and did four improvisations.
And I thought it was music...?
This is ridiculous! Improvisation (in a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/2/06 1:02:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Stephen Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Music Man had rap-like passages (i.e. parts of You've Got
Trouble) which led to fully pitched-tone cadences as the climax...
Not
Nope. They came long before rap. And their origins are GS patter songs and Noel
Coward.
And they too are rap.
Rap is not new. It is ancient.
One of many online sources tells us:
Rap's origins stretch far back to African oral tradition; it has a more immediate
predecessor in the spoken-word
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From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy (long)
At 2:21 PM +0100 4/1/06, Peter Taylor wrote:
Gone are the days when a few ordinary-looking local lads
You know what? I
The whole country is becoming more splintered by the millions of
illegal immigrants who refuse to learn English.
Phil Daley
Name three. They must be both illegal, and have refused the opportunity
to learn English when offered.
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
OK, you started this one, so you can answer it first - how DO you
define
music?
Pitch and rhythm. Words are secondary.
Rap has rhythm. End of story.
Phil Daley
Every rap song I have ever heard includes at least fragments of melody.
In the overarching category of hip-hop (which I am
On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:19 AM, Robert C L Watson wrote:
Rap's origins stretch far back to African oral tradition; it has a
more immediate predecessor in the spoken-word expressionism of 60s
activists like the Last Poets, or LeRoi Jones (later known as Amiri
Baraka), who performed activist
At 4/1/2006 12:32 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Besides, by your definition many percussion ensemble works (notably
_Ionisation_) are not music--unless you count the piano tone-clusters
at the end as pitch. My own _A Descent into the Maelstrom_ contains no
definite pitches. Is it not music? If not,
In a message dated 4/1/06 1:01:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Robert C L Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy
...Thus, one might reasonably say that the parlato songs in The Music Man
are a form of rap ...
Nope. They came long before rap. And their origins
At 10:49 AM -0500 3/31/06, Williams, Jim wrote:
Did Elvis's music openly advocate killing policemen?
No, but the Jefferson Airplane did, at least once. They also wrote a
song glorifying cannibalism.
Did swing music openly advocate sexual promiscuity with no regard to
its physical or
The messages crossed. Happens to me all the time.
--Andrew
On Apr 1, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Apr 1, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Every rap song I have ever heard includes at least fragments of
melody. In the overarching category of hip-hop (which I am interested
On Apr 1, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
I don't think Schubert was influenced by Irish bards either, but I
think it's reasonable to label either of them as song.
I read a highly interesting paper, long ago, that identified a bardic
stance taken in some Romantic music and
On Apr 1, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
Could you make a score of a rap piece so that another group could
perform it and it would be identical to the original performance?
(By which I mean, the same pitches.)
Of course one could. Probably has. Which is not to say that there is
not
On Apr 1, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/1/2006 12:32 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
My own _A Descent into the Maelstrom_ contains no
definite pitches. Is it not music? If not, what is it? Or are you
saying it isn't even art?
Is it possible to two different groups to perform it and
On 01 Apr 2006, at 8:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Gone are the days when a few ordinary-looking local lads in
Liverpool could form their own little group, write their own music,
practice at each other's houses, play at local dance halls and get
discovered by talent scouts.
Replace
Here is a blog entry by composer Derek Bermel talking in some detail
about the seminal hiphop record _Paid in Full_ by Eric B. and Rakim:
http://derekbermel.blogspot.com/2006/01/rakim-rhyme-got-rougher.html
Bermel has won the Rome prize, a Guggenheim and a Fulbright
fellowship. I recently
At 5:38 PM +0100 4/1/06, Peter Taylor wrote:
- Original Message - From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy (long)
At 2:21 PM +0100 4/1/06, Peter Taylor wrote:
Gone are the days when a few
At 1:04 PM -0500 4/1/06, Phil Daley wrote:
At 4/1/2006 12:32 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
OK, you started this one, so you can answer it first - how DO you
define
music?
Pitch and rhythm. Words are secondary.
Rap has rhythm. End of story.
Every rap song I have ever heard includes at
- Original Message -
From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy
On 01 Apr 2006, at 8:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Gone are the days when a few ordinary-looking local lads in Liverpool
On 01 Apr 2006, at 5:40 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
On 01 Apr 2006, at 8:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Gone are the days when a few ordinary-looking local lads in
Liverpool could form their own little group, write their own
music, practice at each other's houses, play at local dance
halls
On 01 Apr 2006, at 8:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Gone are the days when a few ordinary-looking local lads
in Liverpool
could form their own little group, write their own music,
practice at
each other's houses, play at local dance halls and get
discovered by
talent scouts.
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