Memorial Day is the last Monday in May (it used to be May 30th, a
fixed date). It was started as Decoration Day, shortly after the
Civil War ended in 1865, when towns would place decorations on the
graves of their Civil War soldiers who didn't make it back alive.
It has come to be a day for
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
Just got 2K5 recently, and I've been reading the manual (yeah, I'm a
compulsive RTFM guy). Where is Finale script documented? There's nothing in
the manual.
Appendix A, about page 74, or so. Not the best documentation in the
world, admittedly.
ns
At 07:46 AM 5/31/05 -0400, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>At 07:36 AM 05/31/2005, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> >Just got 2K5 recently, and I've been reading the manual (yeah, I'm a
> >compulsive RTFM guy). Where is Finale script documented? There's nothing in
> >the manual.
>
>Isn't it the same as 2k4? The
At 07:36 AM 05/31/2005, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>Just got 2K5 recently, and I've been reading the manual (yeah, I'm a
>compulsive RTFM guy). Where is Finale script documented? There's nothing in
>the manual.
Isn't it the same as 2k4? There's a FinaleScript section in chapter 9 that
talks abo
At 03:15 PM 5/29/05 +0200, you wrote:
>Well, I can only answer for myself, but I use it very often, and it's a
>huge time-saver.
Just got 2K5 recently, and I've been reading the manual (yeah, I'm a
compulsive RTFM guy). Where is Finale script documented? There's nothing in
the manual.
Dennis
dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would be curious to find out how many on this list regularly make
> use of Finalescript.
Regularly? No, not on, say, a daily basis. But the ability to batch
process a folder and perform the same simple operation (like printing,
save to audio, or part ext
On May 29, 2005, at 3:29 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I do that as well, but as a self-employed musician it is a business
expense that I can write off. Were I employed in another field and
were only a hobbyiest in the musical world I would certainly take a
far more conservative upgrade path.
Really?
At 01:00 PM 5/29/05 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
>The copy protection policy is fine for me. Compared to some of the other
>copy protection systems employed by Native Instruments, and Tascam,
>Finale's is really easy and even generous.
NI has changed theirs to the positive: They now have a polic
At 01:37 PM 5/29/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote:
>On 29 May 2005 at 2:36, John Bell wrote:
>> You keep harping on about this "escrow" issue. Unfortunately there
>> are unscrupulous people who steal software, so systems are devised to
>> discourage theft. I wish I didn't need a key to get into my
Totally agree with your statements!
I'm not a professional engraver, but I readily dish out the money for
updates. It is worth it to me. The time saved, the quality of the
output, etc etc.
The copy protection policy is fine for me. Compared to some of the other
copy protection systems employ
On 29 May 2005, at 18:49, David W. Fenton wrote:Professional engravers have different needs. I excluded them from my comments about those who upgrade very year. For the rest of us, the vast majority of Finale users, the value just isn't there. I'm not a professional engraver, but for me the valu
I am not a professional engraver, yet the time saved every year
justifies most upgrades _for me_.
Sure, what you wrote was _your opinion_, it couldn't possibly have been
anything else.
Yet you generalized, that _in your opinion_ the improvements didn't
justify the upgrade price for anyone bu
On 29 May 2005 at 14:19, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
[quoting me:]
> > No single
> > version of Finale has ever had enough improvements in it to justify
> > the whole upgrade price from the previous version, in my opinion, so
> > I don't understand how people think they are getting their money's
> >
On 29 May 2005 at 3:12, John Bell wrote:
> On 29 May 2005, at 02:50, Carl Dershem wrote:
>
> > When the benefits of upgrading are are slight as they often are
> > with Finale upgrades, waiting two or three upgrades is by far the
> > most efficient course of action. As long as I do not have $10
On 29 May 2005 at 2:36, John Bell wrote:
> On 28 May 2005, at 23:33, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > I find it incomprehensible that
> > anyone other than a professional engraver who makes their living
> > with Finale would pay the upgrade tax and buy Finale every year.
>
> I find it incomprehensib
On 29 May 2005, at 11:25, Cecil Rigby wrote:Actually not until this coming Monday, Memorial Day is a U.S. holiday of remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service. Lots of people here close things down on Fridays and have four-day weekends around such holidays. Do you have a similar h
On May 29, 2005, at 9:15 AM, d. collins wrote:
Christopher Smith écrit:
So would I, in fact, what would this be used for? I can't see a use
for it for my own projects, though I am sure someone will point out
something to me.
Well, I can only answer for myself, but I use it very often, and i
On May 29, 2005, at 8:02 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I would be curious to find out how many on this list regularly make
use of Finalescript.
So would I, in fact, what would this be used for? I can't see a use for
it for my own projects, though I am sure someone will point out
something to me.
No single
version of Finale has ever had enough improvements in it to justify
the whole upgrade price from the previous version, in my opinion, so
I don't understand how people think they are getting their money's
worth.
What a completely stupid thing to say. It may not justify the upgrade
d. collins wrote:
David W. Fenton écrit:
No single
version of Finale has ever had enough improvements in it to justify
the whole upgrade price from the previous version, in my opinion, so
I don't understand how people think they are getting their money's
worth.
Finalescript and the new expr
John Bell wrote:
Hi Cecil
Er, exactly what is your point?
And what does Memorial Day memorialise? When is it? Why is it?
Memorial Day is the last Monday in May (it used to be May 30th, a fixed
date). It was started as Decoration Day, shortly after the Civil War
ended in 1865, when towns
John Bell wrote:
On 29 May 2005, at 02:50, Carl Dershem wrote:
When the benefits of upgrading are are slight as they often are with
Finale upgrades, waiting two or three upgrades is by far the most
efficient course of action. As long as I do not have $100 that is not
better used elsewhere,
A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Carl Dershem / 2005/05/28 / 09:50 PM wrote:
When the benefits of upgrading are are slight as they often are with
Finale upgrades, waiting two or three upgrades is by far the most
efficient course of action. As long as I do not have $100 that is not
better used elsewher
Ken Durling wrote:
Noel (and Johannes) -
This sounds like good advice. I'll have plenty to do until then just
getting comfortable in the program. Not to speak of all the projects I
have to keep going alongside that process. I'll be keeping close watch
around the time you say, I appreciat
G'morning, John, et al-
you wrote: Er, exactly what is your point?
> I really do want to just throw an "Amen, David!" into the
> mix.
Actually not until this coming Monday, Memorial Day is a U.S. holiday of
remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service. Lots of people
here close
John Bell wrote:
On 28 May 2005, at 23:33, David W. Fenton wrote:
I find it incomprehensible that
anyone other than a professional engraver who makes their living with
Finale would pay the upgrade tax and buy Finale every year.
I find it incomprehensible that anyone should complain abou
David W. Fenton schrieb:
David W. Fenton schrieb:
Aside from changes to engraver slurs in Finale 2005 (which may or
may not fix the problems I've had), have any of the large number of
bugs I've posted about recently been fixed since Finale 2003?
It doesn't seem that way to me.
Well, indepe
Carl Dershem / 2005/05/28 / 09:50 PM wrote:
>When the benefits of upgrading are are slight as they often are with
>Finale upgrades, waiting two or three upgrades is by far the most
>efficient course of action. As long as I do not have $100 that is not
>better used elsewhere, and am getting goo
Noel (and Johannes) -
This sounds like good advice. I'll have plenty to do until then just
getting comfortable in the program. Not to speak of all the projects I
have to keep going alongside that process. I'll be keeping close watch
around the time you say, I appreciate that information.
I'd join Johannes in his advice:
If I were you I would wait a little and upgrade to Fin2k6 when it
comes out, usually in late summer,
since if there is anything in 2k2 that you'd really have to "unlearn"
for 2k6, it does not immediately occur to me what it is. However, it is
my recollection
Ken :
I think the user who suggested 2k2c was mistaken. I've religiously
downloaded (even though I've not always applied) the updaters, and the
hightest I have is 2k2b.
ns
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Hi Cecil
Er, exactly what is your point?
And what does Memorial Day memorialise? When is it? Why is it?
John
On 29 May 2005, at 03:23, Cecil Rigby wrote:
Hi all--
you know I remain mostly quiet on the list, mostly 'cos I'm too
busy with
work, but I really do want to just throw an "Amen,
Hi all--
you know I remain mostly quiet on the list, mostly 'cos I'm too busy with
work, but I really do want to just throw an "Amen, David!" into the mix. I
agree with him on several counts, but mostly about the upgrades being worth
their cost, *and* the escrow key issue.
When I have the assuran
On 29 May 2005, at 02:50, Carl Dershem wrote:When the benefits of upgrading are are slight as they often are with Finale upgrades, waiting two or three upgrades is by far the most efficient course of action. As long as I do not have $100 that is not better used elsewhere, and am getting good use o
John Bell wrote:
I find it incomprehensible that anyone should complain about spending
$100 on an annual upgrade. That's only $2 a week for goodness sake. If
you are not "a professional engraver who makes their living with Finale"
are you hoping for charitable status?
When the benefits of u
On 28 May 2005, at 23:33, David W. Fenton wrote:I find it incomprehensible that anyone other than a professional engraver who makes their living with Finale would pay the upgrade tax and buy Finale every year. I find it incomprehensible that anyone should complain about spending $100 on an annual
On 29 May 2005 at 1:00, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> David W. Fenton schrieb:
> > Aside from changes to engraver slurs in Finale 2005 (which may or
> > may not fix the problems I've had), have any of the large number of
> > bugs I've posted about recently been fixed since Finale 2003?
> >
> > It doe
David W. Fenton schrieb:
Aside from changes to engraver slurs in Finale 2005 (which may or may
not fix the problems I've had), have any of the large number of bugs
I've posted about recently been fixed since Finale 2003?
It doesn't seem that way to me.
Well, independent time sig spacing come
On 29 May 2005 at 0:23, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> (I must admit that it sometimes escapes me how you can complain so
> much about Finale, especially about bugs and quirks that apparently
> never get looked into, when in reality you are several versions
> behind, and simply cannot say anything on t
David W. Fenton schrieb:
Of course, engraver slurs still require lots of adjustment in many
common cases. That doesn't mean I'd give them up, though!
David, "still" does seem to be a little misleading in this case, since
you are "still" on 2k3 as far as I know. There have been improvements
On 28 May 2005 at 13:58, Mark D Lew wrote:
> On May 28, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>
> > I am not sure whether 2k2 had Engraver slurs (which automatically
> > avoid all sorts of things).
>
> Fin 2k2 does have Engraver slurs. I think they were improved a bit in
> subsequent versi
On May 28, 2005, at 10:35 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
However, in my experience, it always works to to SHIFT-CTRL-CLICK
instead of to drag. This is also the method for copying from a source
that can't be displayed onscreen at the same time as the target.
Funny, I'm not sure I ever knew that you
On May 28, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I am not sure whether 2k2 had Engraver slurs (which automatically
avoid all sorts of things).
Fin 2k2 does have Engraver slurs. I think they were improved a bit in
subsequent versions, but the big jump from dumb slurs happened with
2k2.
Ken Durling schrieb:
Also, in terms of an eventual upgrade, am I missing something really big
having as old a version as 2002? I'm sure it will serve to learn the
program, but I hope it will not make it difficult for people here to
advise when necessary.
Yes, you are missing many things rea
On 28 May 2005 at 14:56, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
> Ken Durling / 2005/05/28 / 01:53 PM wrote:
>
> >So I understand from David's comment
> >that the problem is not unheard of. Shift/Ctrl-clk does indeed work,
> >so that's good to know.
>
> This problem is highly intermittent, but sure does happen
> I had this problem when I got a PostScript printer and installed the
> PS fonts. When I upgraded to WinFin2K3, the font names had changed
> and none of the files with PS fonts had the correct font names (and,
> yes, I installed the PS fonts). Since I just couldn't see any
> significant output dif
Ken Durling / 2005/05/28 / 01:53 PM wrote:
>So I understand from David's comment
>that the problem is not unheard of. Shift/Ctrl-clk does indeed work, so
>that's good to know.
This problem is highly intermittent, but sure does happen on Mac side as
well. In my experiences, it started since O
Nice to have some success to report. I reinstalled Finale on both
computers, and in the case of the desktop that fixed the font problem. Not
the laptop Mover problem though, but when I upgraded to 2k2b (the highest
upgrade I saw on the Coda site) that DID fix the Mover problem. Is there a
2
On 28 May 2005 at 10:53, Ken Durling wrote:
> I remembered that I also have F2002 installed on my desktop, also XP
> Pro, so I decided to try it there, but when I opened the prgram and
> started a score there seems to be some font error - I'm getting book
> icons instead of clefs, and all sorts o
At 01:08 PM 5/28/2005, Ken Durling wrote:
>All that said, I have already run into a problem, and I'm not sure if
it's
>something that can be readily identified over the Internet, and that
is
>that the Mass Mover doesn't seem to work for me. I'm just
diligently
>working through tutorial 1a,
Ken,
You can reinstall just the fonts from the CD, but given the anomalies
you are describing, you'd probably be better to reinstall everything on
both computers. Don't forget to download and install the 2k2
maintenance updates as well. (I think 2k2c was the last maintenance
update?)
- Da
Thanks to all for the quick response. In answer to your questions, I think
I'm doing everything by the book: yes, there are notes in the measure I'm
copying, yes I drag until the dark outline appears and the pointer is in
the new bar, yes, "Copy Everything" is selected, as is "Copy and
Replac
On May 28, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
All that said, I have already run into a problem, and I'm not sure if
it's something that can be readily identified over the Internet, and
that is that the Mass Mover doesn't seem to work for me. I'm just
diligently working through tutorial 1a
On 28 May 2005 at 10:08, Ken Durling wrote:
> All that said, I have already run into a problem, and I'm not sure if
> it's something that can be readily identified over the Internet, and
> that is that the Mass Mover doesn't seem to work for me. I'm just
> diligently working through tutorial 1a,
On 28 May 2005, at 1:08 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Ken,
Perhaps you're not dragging far enough? You have to drag until your
*pointer* is touching the target measure. It's not enough for just the
_outline_ of the measure to be touching. (This means that if you
Hello everyone -
I've just dug out and installed a copy of Finale 2002 that I've had for 4
years, and am starting to work my way through the tutorials. I should add
that I'm an experienced Sibelius user, looking to round out my knowledge of
these two programs. I'm not in the least bit intere
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