RE: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 3:56 PM -0800 1/28/10, Lee Actor wrote: The solo repertoire for "classical" saxophone is indeed on the thin side; furthermore, even the best of this repertoire (e.g., Ibert, Glazunov. etc.) tends toward a lighter or less serious treatment (for lack of a better term) than composers often use wh

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Not wild about the term "art music," even if it is used in scare quotes. But there are lots of great classical saxophonists now who are certainly up to the fiercest challenges of contemporary classical music. Brian Sacawa, for one: http://www.briansacawa.com However, Chuck raises an important p

RE: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Lee Actor
The solo repertoire for "classical" saxophone is indeed on the thin side; furthermore, even the best of this repertoire (e.g., Ibert, Glazunov. etc.) tends toward a lighter or less serious treatment (for lack of a better term) than composers often use when writing concertos for other instruments.

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 28 Jan 2010 at 17:45, Chuck Israels wrote: These responses have missed whatever point I probably shouldn't have bothered trying to make here, and that was that there is so little significant repertoire for "classical" saxophone, despite the existence of a number o

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: These responses have missed whatever point I probably shouldn't have bothered trying to make here, and that was that there is so little significant repertoire for "classical" saxophone, despite the existence of a number of fine players in that style, that favoring that styl

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jan 2010 at 17:45, Chuck Israels wrote: > These responses have missed whatever point I probably shouldn't have > bothered trying to make here, and that was that there is so little > significant repertoire for "classical" saxophone, despite the > existence of a number of fine players in

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Having suffered through a college degree to get a major in saxophone performance, we studied classical music only in lessons. There is a lot of repertoire out there for it. Plus a lot of the Oboe repertoire has been arranged for saxophone as well. Then there is the whole quartet aspect. And the

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Chuck Israels
These responses have missed whatever point I probably shouldn't have bothered trying to make here, and that was that there is so little significant repertoire for "classical" saxophone, despite the existence of a number of fine players in that style, that favoring that style in music depart

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: I have always thought the classical music of the saxophone is what Coleman Hawkins, Lester Young and Charlie Parker played, and that music departments that don't recognize that are failing to see the world as it is - to almost everyone's detriment. While that's true, si

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
"abso-freakin-lutely." I love it in the Army, I quickly became used to the insertion of four-letter words between standard syllables. It became an art form. Thanks for the memories ... Dean On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Ray Horton wrote: abso-freakin-lutely Canto ergo sum And,

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 11:58 AM -0500 1/28/10, Chuck Israels wrote: I have always thought the classical music of the saxophone is what Coleman Hawkins, Lester Young and Charlie Parker played, and that music departments that don't recognize that are failing to see the world as it is - to almost everyone's detriment

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Chuck Israels
I have always thought the classical music of the saxophone is what Coleman Hawkins, Lester Young and Charlie Parker played, and that music departments that don't recognize that are failing to see the world as it is - to almost everyone's detriment. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 201

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-28 Thread Ray Horton
John Howell wrote: At 11:55 PM -0500 1/27/10, Ray Horton wrote: Really, now, how many "legit' sax players do you have around V. Tech, anyway? Most of them. Our sax professor is straight classical, and when we had a jazz sax teacher on the faculty (whom we lost during the first state budge

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-27 Thread John Howell
At 11:55 PM -0500 1/27/10, Ray Horton wrote: Really, now, how many "legit' sax players do you have around V. Tech, anyway? Most of them. Our sax professor is straight classical, and when we had a jazz sax teacher on the faculty (whom we lost during the first state budget crisis) they did NO

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-27 Thread Ray Horton
John Howell wrote: At 9:12 AM -0800 1/27/10, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Can writing "Falls" for Saxes be as effective as for brass? Dean Yes, absolutely, if they understand jazz style. Legit players wouldn't have a clue. But it's a little more difficult to taper them off. John Once agai

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-27 Thread John Howell
At 9:12 AM -0800 1/27/10, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Can writing "Falls" for Saxes be as effective as for brass? Dean Yes, absolutely, if they understand jazz style. Legit players wouldn't have a clue. But it's a little more difficult to taper them off. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Pro

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-27 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Why thank you that's all I needed to know ... not being a sax player (you are correct, about brass, of course). Dean On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:49 AM, wrote: Don't be ridiculous! NOTHING is as effective as BRASS! :-) Seriously though, saxes perform falls all the time. It is a good and us

Re: [Finale] OT Novice Question

2010-01-27 Thread christopher.smith
Don't be ridiculous! NOTHING is as effective as BRASS! :-) Seriously though, saxes perform falls all the time. It is a good and useful part of sax technique, though of course it still sounds like a saxophone. (okay, so I couldn't stay serious!) Christopher - Original Message - From: