Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Max Horn
At 23:03 Uhr -0400 20.06.2002, Joe wrote: >Running tcsh, csh, or su with the -f flag causes the shell to run >without loading .tcsh, .csh or whatever the case may be. OK but won't they inherit the environment of the parent shell anyway? How do we prevent that? Max --

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Martin Costabel
Max Horn wrote: > > At 23:03 Uhr -0400 20.06.2002, Joe wrote: > >Running tcsh, csh, or su with the -f flag causes the shell to run > >without loading .tcsh, .csh or whatever the case may be. > > OK but won't they inherit the environment of the parent shell anyway? > How do we prevent that? "env

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 06:16, David R. Morrison wrote: > So I'm wondering if we should get Fink to compile in a cleaner environment. > There should be some way to fork a shell with none of the environment variables > inherited by the new shell, I would think? Yes, see the env command. At least th

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
>So I'm wondering if we should get Fink to compile in a cleaner environment. >There should be some way to fork a shell with none of the environment variables >inherited by the new shell, I would think? (Since we are running Fink >compiles as root, I know that "su -l" will at least restrict the en

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Justin Hallett
what if there was a user named fink? with a clean env? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The problem with "su -l" is that su invokes a shell. For example, on my >box $SHELL = tcsh, so "su -l" resets the environment and then launches >tcsh--which promptly reads my .cshrc and sets all kinds of env variab

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Yoav Felberbaum
At 8:19 -0600 21/6/02, Justin Hallett wrote: >what if there was a user named fink? with a clean env? And if the user somehow changed the .cshrc file at a later date? We're then back to where we started. -- Yoav Felberbaum E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Justin Hallett
not if you lock the fink home dir or make /tmp that gets wiped all the time. It doesn't need a valid home since it's not a real user... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >And if the user somehow changed the .cshrc file at a later date? >We're then back to where we started. ¸.·´^`·.,][JFH][`·.,¸¸.·´][J

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 12:52 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: > not if you lock the fink home dir or make /tmp that gets wiped all the > time. It doesn't need a valid home since it's not a real user... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> And if the user somehow changed the .cshrc file at a later dat

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Justin Hallett
I agree so long as this is possible [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >no, I do not think that is a good idea. What if some user already has the >name fink taken? We cannot guarantee that. I think we should not have a >dedicated user, but everything should be done by cleaning root's env and >then using p

Re: [Fink-devel] cleaner Fink environment?

2002-06-21 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Friday, June 21, 2002, at 03:10 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: > I agree so long as this is possible > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> no, I do not think that is a good idea. What if some user already has >> the >> name fink taken? We cannot guarantee that. I think we should not have a >> dedicate

[Fink-devel] Localizing fink

2002-06-21 Thread Ben Hines
Has any thought gone into localizing fink? Being a perl beginner I don't know how that is usually handled for perl programs. I bet if we put out a call for localizers we would get some volunteers. I was just browsing a google search for "KDE Fink" and found us on several international sites. Japa