Re: [Fink-devel] reorganizing documentation on CVS

Am Sonntag, 29.06.03 um 07:05 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: Dear fink developers, As some of you know, we have a pretty slick system for generating our web pages, using xml source which is processed into php files. The same xml source can be processed into more "monolithic" html files, which are

[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3 IDEAS,NONE,1.1 TODO,1.3,NONE

Am Sonntag, 29.06.03 um 02:55 Uhr schrieb Peter O'Gorman: On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 05:14 AM, Max Horn wrote: --- NEW FILE: IDEAS --- - decide on setting MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET to 10.3 or not - all pkgs that need a depend on essential pkgs should list that depend - all pkgs that depend on

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ncurses.info,1.1,1.2 ncurses.patch,1.1,1.2

OK, the ncurses issue is another complicated one. Both with "fixing" ncurses, and with the gcc 3.3 ABI change, we're going to need to so what we did last time and be careful to do two things: 1) give a new version number to pkgs with C++ code when they are moved to the 10.3 tree 2) make every depe

Re: [Fink-devel] reorganizing documentation on CVS

On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 1:05AM, David R. Morrison wrote: I would appreciate any comments or feedback about this. Diffs attached below (for Makefile.common, the .dtd, the .xsl's, and the one .xml which requires the new "varlink" template. +1 Sounds like a great idea for me. -

[Fink-devel] reorganizing documentation on CVS

Dear fink developers, As some of you know, we have a pretty slick system for generating our web pages, using xml source which is processed into php files. The same xml source can be processed into more "monolithic" html files, which are distributed these days with the binary installer. Also, som

[Fink-devel] Re: NDA

It's the NDA you agree to when you join the Apple Developer Connection, either as an online member or as some other kind of member. I'm sure there must be a copy somewhere at connect.apple.com . -- Dave --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Fr

[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3 IDEAS,NONE,1.1 TODO,1.3,NONE

On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 05:14 AM, Max Horn wrote: --- NEW FILE: IDEAS --- - decide on setting MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET to 10.3 or not - all pkgs that need a depend on essential pkgs should list that depend - all pkgs that depend on ncurses will need a versioned dep as this version is bin

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On Samstag, Juni 28, 2003, at 05:48 Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote: One of the great things which Apple did last week was to publically release the source for all external opensource components of the WWDC Panther Preview. This means that we can discuss lots of changes that will be needed, just

Re: [Fink-devel] ABI Changes: 3.1 -> 3.3

regardless I think this is a great idea and should be implemented even right now in 10.2 On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Max Horn wrote: Now, to ensure that really the correct GCC is used, we could insert our own symlinks for gcc into the $PATH during the compile phase - a bit like th

Re: [Fink-devel] ABI Changes: 3.1 -> 3.3

just an idea but while reading this I got an idea I like the fink.conf value but it shouldn't be able to be modded by the user so regarless we set it at bootstrap and in the fink pkg or base-files lets add a util that they can move up that value with, it would then get all the pkgs with a GCC:

[Fink-devel] ABI Changes: 3.1 -> 3.3

So, how to deal with the ABI changes (again). Let's first see what exactly we have to deal with: 1) We need to ensure that all the C++ code on a system is compiled with the same version of GCC, either 3.1 or 3.3. (exceptions can be made for C++ code which is completely self contained, i.e. whic

[Fink-devel] passwd on 10.3

David R. Morrison wrote: 1) Installing an old version of fink's passwd package under 10.3 will wipe the users on your system. We have to be absolutely certain that users have an updated passwd package in their tree under 10.3. AFAIK 0.5.3 ships with the latest passwd, which does not anymore wipe

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

this is true but at this point only a small amount can test and discuss it, this was just to get things moving along so we don't wait to long like 10.2 :) and I don't think any of these changes where "major" :) maybe the prebinding but I figured instead of deal will incorporating it into 10.2

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

Am Samstag, 28.06.03 um 20:21 Uhr schrieb TheSin: no they won't that is what I changed Yup, you did. However, please next time when you make such major changes, at the very least post a message in parallel to fink-devel explaining what you did. Even better, put your changes into a .diff, into y

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

no they won't that is what I changed I really need to start using the reply all button On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 11:23 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Sure. However, when you bootstrap, the bootstrap.pl code looks to see if you are on 10.1 or 10.2 and then chooses the appropriate tree. Somebo

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THe changes I made where to a clean bootstrap only, I haven't even > though about upgrades, but yes that is something else that needs to be > dealt with, specially since we are adding prebinding as of 10.3 tree. > > On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Da

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

this is why I wanted to start on the 10.3 tree, and not leave it to chance that user might use the 10.2 tree. On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 09:17 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: 1) Installing an old version of fink's passwd package under 10.3 will wipe the users on your system. We have to be abs

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

THe changes I made where to a clean bootstrap only, I haven't even though about upgrades, but yes that is something else that needs to be dealt with, specially since we are adding prebinding as of 10.3 tree. On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 09:17 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Both of these will in

Fwd: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

justin asked me to forward this, he's having e-mail issues... Begin forwarded message: From: TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:24:50 -0600 To: Benjamin Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am totally behind this but how should we handle it? Code it into fink? add a file in the /sw/etc/

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 11:17AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Both of these will involve changes to bootstrap.pl and/or postinstall.pl . But we should discuss them first, and decide how we want to proceed. I agree. We already talked about this a bit on irc, and I think we need to sit down an

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

One of the great things which Apple did last week was to publically release the source for all external opensource components of the WWDC Panther Preview. This means that we can discuss lots of changes that will be needed, just based on the contents of those source files, without anybody violating

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/10.3 ChangeLog,NONE,1.1 apt.info,NONE,1.1 apt.patch,NONE,1.1 base-files.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.info,NONE,1.1 bzip2.patch,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.info,NONE,1.1 cctools-extra.patch,NONE,1.1 debianutils.info,NONE,1.1 debianutils.patch,NONE,1.1 dpkg-bootstrap.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.info,NONE,1.1 dpkg.patch,NONE,1.1 fink-prebinding.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.info,NONE,1.1 gettext.patch,NONE,1.1 gzip.info,NONE,1.1 gzip.patch,NONE,1.1 libiconv.info,NONE,1.1 libiconv.patch,NONE,1.1 ncurses.info,NONE,1.1 ncurses.patch,NONE,1.1 storable-pm.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 storable-pm561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl561.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl580.info,NONE,1.1 system-perl581.info,NONE,1.1 tar.info,NONE,1.1 unzip.info,NONE,1.1

Hi Justin. Great to get started on this. We need to do things carefully, however. 1) Installing an old version of fink's passwd package under 10.3 will wipe the users on your system. We have to be absolutely certain that users have an updated passwd package in their tree under 10.3. 2) Because

Re: [Fink-devel] perl 5.8.0 in panther

Am Samstag, 28.06.03 um 02:17 Uhr schrieb Koen van der Drift: FYI, According to the Darwin update that was released this week, Panther will contain perl 5.8.0. I hope it's not old news ;) Pretty old news, and the major reason Dave Morrison and others worked to hard to get Fink ready for mul