Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-06 Thread Alexander Strange
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 06:59 AM, Max Horn wrote: could still make them essential again in the future). Since both are only used as tools (yeah, bzip2 also has a lib, but fink itself is not making use of that), this should be simple to achieve... kdebase should be using it for the b

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-06 Thread Max Horn
At 19:25 Uhr -0500 05.11.2002, David R. Morrison wrote: > In fact, bzip2 should be split off since it has a dylib and header... Yes, and a similar remark applies to several other "essential" packages like gettext and ncurses. However, making changes to essential packages without breaking thi

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread David R. Morrison
> In fact, bzip2 should be split off since it has a > dylib and header... Yes, and a similar remark applies to several other "essential" packages like gettext and ncurses. However, making changes to essential packages without breaking things is tricky, to put it mildly, and I've yet to hear anyon

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Hines
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 02:10 PM, Max Horn wrote: You are making the incorrect assumption that packages will depend on bzip2 / curl / cvs. They don't (or shouldn't). bzip2 has a header and a dylib, so things may need to depend on it. The system bzip2 does not have the dylib (as t

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Max Horn
At 17:02 Uhr -0500 05.11.2002, Jason Deraleau wrote: > None of these should be replaced. Not only are the versions in Fink in most cases newer, but having them as seperate packages also allows us to provide fixes etc. at all times. OTOH there is nothing to be gained by providing place holders

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Jason Deraleau
> None of these should be replaced. Not only are the versions in Fink > in most cases newer, but having them as seperate packages also allows > us to provide fixes etc. at all times. OTOH there is nothing to be > gained by providing place holders for these, with the possible > exception of the bind

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:45 PM, Max Horn wrote: As I stated on IRC. It's fine by me to put in such a package, however, the name "system-cups" is IMO not appropriate. Rather it should be called "cups-headers" or "cups-dev". Figures, I see this e-mail *after* I commit system-cups. =)

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Jason Deraleau
> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:40 PM, Jason Deraleau wrote: > > bzip2Virtual package for the install of bzip2 included with > > Jaguar > > (/usr/bin/bzip2, v.1.0.2) > > Not sure about the others, but this one still exists because bzip2 on > the system is static-only. > Bah, I don't

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Max Horn
At 16:40 Uhr -0500 05.11.2002, Jason Deraleau wrote: > >> I think we still need to deal with our 'cups' package. We should just >> use >> Apple's libraries and binaries, but provide the headers ourselves. (I >> think >> there is a package in experimental/rangerrick/). > > If no one has any

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:40 PM, Jason Deraleau wrote: bzip2Virtual package for the install of bzip2 included with Jaguar (/usr/bin/bzip2, v.1.0.2) Not sure about the others, but this one still exists because bzip2 on the system is static-only.

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Max Horn
At 13:35 Uhr -0500 05.11.2002, Alexander Strange wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 05 November 2002 10:30 am, David R. Morrison wrote: I'd like to propose that the 0.5.0 release can be made in the near future, even though the number of packages in the stable tree

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Jason Deraleau
> >> I think we still need to deal with our 'cups' package. We should just > >> use > >> Apple's libraries and binaries, but provide the headers ourselves. (I > >> think > >> there is a package in experimental/rangerrick/). > > > > If no one has any objections, I can put the package in unstable. I

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Matt Stephenson
Benjamin Reed wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 13:35, Alexander Strange wrote: I think we still need to deal with our 'cups' package. We should just use Apple's libraries and binaries, but provide the headers ourselves. (I think there is a package in experimental/rangerrick/). If no one has any

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 13:35, Alexander Strange wrote: > I think we still need to deal with our 'cups' package. We should just use > Apple's libraries and binaries, but provide the headers ourselves. (I think > there is a package in experimental/rangerrick/). If no one has any objections, I can

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Alexander Strange
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 05 November 2002 10:30 am, David R. Morrison wrote: > I'd like to propose that the 0.5.0 release can be made in the near future, > even though the number of packages in the stable tree is still small. > I think we will have a better chance c

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 10:30 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: The one thing which I see a critical for this release is the recent xfree86-base-4.2.1.1-1 package. (It's critical because it fixes a problem in XFree86 which has been reported for the next update of OS X.) So I hope that many

[Fink-devel] 0.5.0 timetable

2002-11-05 Thread David R. Morrison
I'd like to propose that the 0.5.0 release can be made in the near future, even though the number of packages in the stable tree is still small. I think we will have a better chance communicating to our users the need for feedback about package stability after we've made this initial Jaguar release