Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Dolan
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 02:17 PM, TheSin wrote: also there will no longer be a random gen password, it will be a crypt pass or it will be blank which will mean a locked user which will be most common. Sorry to beat this point to death, but I feel quite strongly that there should never b

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread TheSin
this really is a moot point, why not allow to behavior as it may someday be needed, but till then just set all users to locked, for that matter then don't "NEED" descriptions but I'm allow it to be set anyhow. But if need be I can remove the passwd and default it to locked with out a problem.

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread TheSin
I'm looking more for info on whether ppl want the online method of heredoc version and if ppl like the user- and group- pkgs to deal with users/groups, the password issue and such are minor point that are easily changed, right now I need to get the major part of the code done. though it doe

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 9:42PM, Chris Dolan wrote: On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 02:17 PM, TheSin wrote: also there will no longer be a random gen password, it will be a crypt pass or it will be blank which will mean a locked user which will be most common. Sorry to beat this point to

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread TheSin
well since I got no response other then this one I've gone with the oneline version for now, but I suppose this can be changed later (the beauty of perl mmm). I just have two shell functions to write and it seems to be done. Any willing testers? :) and all user and locked, passworded can only

[Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread TheSin
okay after much thought and lots of discussion with other developers this is a great idea and i just want the run it by. all pkgs needed users/groups will depends on sort of bundle pkgs. user- or group- these pkgs will control the users on a system, there will check to make sure they exist and

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread TheSin
you could be right about mysql, I use debian and webmin I don't need to use the CLi I think having a shell is more dangerous then having a pass, but it doesn't matter i removed it, I wasn't planing on using it for anything anyhow, and if need be a sudo passwd $user can be added to the end of a

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-14 Thread TheSin
this is NOT correct, it totally depends on your auth, you can auth via pam. On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 08:41 PM, Charles Lepple wrote: and that won't help you login to things like cyradmin again, another separate user database (not tied into /etc/passwd or netinfo unless you configure it th

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-12 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 10:01PM, TheSin wrote: some pkgs require a pass that is known, ie mysql, but maybe I could set it to ask if the passwd eq ask if that suits? Mysql needs it for the user? I was under the impression the mysql root "user" (inside mysql) does, but not the system user

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-11 Thread Charles Lepple
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 10:01 PM, TheSin wrote: some pkgs require a pass that is known, ie mysql From mysql.info: DescUsage: << The package creates the administrative tables on installation. Be sure to set a MySQL root password using mysqladmin: 'mysqladmin -u root password your-new-passw

Re: [Fink-devel] user and group handling

2003-08-11 Thread TheSin
some pkgs require a pass that is known, ie mysql, but maybe I could set it to ask if the passwd eq ask if that suits? you can' sudo or su to a user that doesn't have a shell. you can execute things as that user using sudo -u but that is it. and that won't help you login to things like cyradmin