Okay,
First of all, it seems there's probably several probs. I would like to know the results (complete, unedited, no commentary mixed in with the paste itself) of the following command:
fink update wget
This is why: Initially you complained that fink wasn't updating packages. It appears by editing your trees line you fixed that glitch by just removing the / (if I understood your post on that). Now the process is hanging on xfree86-base which is a different problem from where you began; so what happens if you skip that and try to update wget which only depends on openssl (down to zlib)? That's what I'm interested in. And pasting the screen contents is something I'm asking everyone to do because as a new guy to *nix, if the exact content of the screen isn't copied, I don't follow it as well. I'm sure there's a lot of people (like me) trolling that would like to learn more and need to visually see what's going on. A lot of them aren't as interactive as the few people who frequently post, but I'm sure they pick up a lot.
If you can get everything that's not directly dependent on xfree to update, then I'd think it's obviously something specific to your xfree installation. If trying to update everything on your list gives you the xfree86 error then I'd run
sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends xfree86-base
(a way that helped me on another pkg with a dependency problem) and then run
fink install xfree86-base
and see what happens then. In my case it cleared up the dependency problem that fink had that was virtual.
Personal opinion as a new *nix guy, it seems a lot of you make the problems more complicated that they have to be. Hmm, seems I heard that from all my calc instructors years ago.... :)
Later,
Brandon Potter
Paul wrote:
>From the docs:
The first column displays the installation state with the following meanings:
not installed
i latest version is installed
(i) installed, but a newer version is available
and here's a 'fink list | grep "(i)" ':
(i) arts 1.0.2-1 Analog realtime synthesizer
(i) automake 1.6.3-1 Makefile generator
(i) gmp 4.1-1 GNU multiple precision arithmetic library
(i) libgtop 1.0.13-7 System monitoring library
(i) libxml2 2.4.23-1 XML parsing library, version 2
(i) libxml2-bin 2.4.23-1 XML parsing library, version 2
(i) net-snmp 5.0-4 SNMP tools and libraries
(i) net-snmp-shlibs 5.0-4 SNMP tools and libraries
(i) orbit 0.5.17-2 The CORBA ORB used in GNOME
(i) orbit-bin 0.5.17-2 The CORBA ORB used in GNOME
(i) orbit-shlibs 0.5.17-2 The CORBA ORB used in GNOME
(i) popt 1.6.4-1 Library for parsing command line options
(i) popt-shlibs 1.6.4-1 Library for parsing command line options
(i) qt3-shlibs 3.0.5-3 Cross-Platform GUI application framework.
(i) readline 4.3-4 Comfortable terminal input library
(i) readline-shlibs 4.3-4 Comfortable terminal input library
(i) wget 1.8.2-1 Automatic web site retreiver
fink selfupdate-cvs doesn't seem to do anything with these, nor does updating or rebuilding them. Is there a problem?
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Max Horn wrote:
selfupdate only updates the package list and some of the core packages. If you want to update other packages, use
fink update PACKAGE
or
fink update-all
sorry, I wasn't clear. I have done 'fink update <PACKAGE>', 'fink update-all', even 'for i in `fink list | grep "(i)"; do fink rebuild $i; done.
None of these work.
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paul beard wrote:
sorry, I wasn't clear. I have done 'fink update <PACKAGE>', 'fink update-all', even 'for i in `fink list | grep "(i)"; do fink rebuild $i; done.
Before anyone feels the need to play the pedant and remark that that shell command is wrong, here's what I used:
for i in ` fink list | grep "(i)" | awk '{ print $2}' `; do fink rebuild $i; done
as well as the more conventional ways. I also rebuilt every package I have installed (that was how I found that the tar source was stale).
None of these work.
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paul beard wrote:
sorry, I wasn't clear. I have done 'fink update <PACKAGE>', 'fink update-all', even 'for i in `fink list | grep "(i)"; do fink rebuild $i; done.
None of these work.
One of your databases must be out of order. Do you still have that nonstandard install of storable-pm? Or else, sometimes doing "fink index" 2-3 times helps.
-- Martin
Is it possible that you once had unstable activated, but not anymore, and never rebuilty your package index since then?
Also note you can do this:
fink list --installed
or short:
fink list -i
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Martin Costabel wrote:
One of your databases must be out of order. Do you still have that nonstandard install of storable-pm? Or else, sometimes doing "fink index" 2-3 times helps.
<ahem> non-standard? Whatever.
the problem was that I somehow stopped setting PERL5LIB in my sessions. The library was there all the time.
Incidentally, I made note of this problem on my weblog and I have gotten feedback from another fink user that my notes helped him as well. Perhaps the installation and/or docs are not as solid as we suspect?
[/Users/paul]:: ls -l `locate Storable.pm`
-r--r--r-- 1 root admin 25910 Dec 1 2001 /Library/Perl/darwin/Storable.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 paul staff 25910 Dec 1 2001 /Users/paul/src/Storable-1.0.14/Storable.pm
-r--r--r-- 1 paul staff 25910 Dec 1 2001 /Users/paul/src/Storable-1.0.14/blib/lib/Storable.pm
-r--r--r-- 1 root admin 25910 Dec 1 2001 /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/Storable.pm
[/Users/paul]:: echo ${PERL5LIB}
/sw/lib/perl5
I'm going to run fink index 5 times and see what happens.
I'm lobbying for fink to be the package manager for Darwin/OS X: fixing stuff like this would a pre-requisite.
[/Users/paul]:: grep stable /sw/etc/fink.conf
Trees: local/main stable/main /unstable/main stable/crypto local/bootstrap
Hmm, I wonder if that leading slash in front of unstable is the problem? If it is, perhaps a helpful error message (like the one that says "can't find Storable.pm: install it from fink or cpan for better results") would be a good idea.
I'm going to run fink selfupdate-cvs and fink update-all again now.
[/Users/paul]:: fink update-all
sudo /sw/bin/fink update-all
Information about 1347 packages read in 15 seconds.
Failed: Internal error: node for xfree86-base already exists
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513 for i in 1 2 3 4 5; do fink index; done
514 fink selfupdate-cvs
515 fink update-all
[/Users/paul]:: fink update-all
sudo /sw/bin/fink update-all
Information about 1347 packages read in 30 seconds.
Failed: Internal error: node for xfree86-base already exists
I seem to be no better off: how can I rebuild the index/indices from scratch?
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Ben Hines wrote:
What does "fink list xfree" say? You have some conflict somewhere.. Have you made any packages yourself? Always depend on "x11" never xfree86-*.
-Ben
I'm not sure why I have to get two copies of "blame the end user 'cuz it works for me" when one is too many. This is as tedious as blaming sourceforge for changing their file structure, and thinking "fink selfupdate cvs" was going to rewrite the file paths .
Here's what "fink list xfree" returns.
[/Users/paul]:: fink list xfree
Information about 1347 packages read in 31 seconds.
system-xfree86 4.2-1 Placeholder package for manually installe...
i xfree86-base 4.2.0-6 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
xfree86-rootles 4.2.0-3 MacOS X/Darwin XFree86 display server.
xfree86-server 4.2.0-2 XFree86 display server (stable release)
As I already said, the command to source init.sh was missing from my .bashrc. mea culpa. It's back now. Things still don't work. Storable.pm was installed in perl's search path so it could be located without setting an additional variable.
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Kevin wrote:
At 1:27 PM -0700 8/10/02, paul beard wrote:
[/Users/paul]:: fink update-all
sudo /sw/bin/fink update-all
Information about 1347 packages read in 15 seconds.
Failed: Internal error: node for xfree86-base already exists
what about doing a fink remove xfree86-base then an update-all?
man fink indicates the remove doesn't check dependencies so you should be able to remove it even if other stuff depends on it.
Chris wrote:
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Max Horn wrote:
Is it possible that you once had unstable activated, but not anymore,
and never rebuilty your package index since then?
That or maybe ${fink-dir}/etc/fink.conf has "/unstable/main" instead of
"unstable/main" as part of the Trees line? That's a typo, and I would
think the behavior with that in the config file is undefined.
A bit less sarcasm would get you much more help, Paul.
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