At 5:55 PM -0700 9/4/02, John Gnaegy wrote:
>I can launch Gimp from a X11 terminal window and it launches fine, 
>but doing the same thing from MacOS X's Terminal app doesn't work, 
>giving an error like "can't connect to window environment" (I'm 
>rebuilding Gimp right now so I can't try it again and paste the 
>exact wording).
>
>Can this be fixed by adding a path somewhere, or is it an intrinsic 
>limitation of XDarwin that you can only launch X11 apps from an X11 
>terminal window?
>
>I'm not expecting XDarwin to be launched automatically if an X11 app 
>needs it, that's too much to ask, but mainly I'm wondering what's 
>the difference between the X11 terminal and what it knows about, and 
>MacOS X's Terminal and what it knows about.


welcome to the Fink Beginners list... don't get frustrated.


Aqua is a window server for Cocoa, Carbon, and Classic... but not Darwin.

Darwin churns away underneath with no access to graphic windows: terminal-only.

How does UNIX serve graphic windows on other implementations?
by running an X-Window Server... X11.

Apparently some enterprising imaginative desperate people (XonX) 
discovered that
an open-source XFree86 project that intended to port X11 to Intel X86 chips
had accidentally become portable (hardware-independent) - notice it's XFree86 -
so they compiled it on Darwin-PPC instead of 386-486-Pentium-+ and it worked.

Now it's a duality... X on X... Darwin serving X11 and Aqua at the same time.
Knock out the background of X11 and now it's transparent.



Then other people jumped on the bandwagon and it hit critical-mass:

* Fink,      to give us Debian-type packages to take compiling out of 
our hands.
* OroborOSX, to hack the X11 bootstrap and marry it to Aqua so it interleaves.

XonX (XFree86) with Fink(Commander) with OroborOSX is the winning bandwagon.



Of course there are Also-Ran LOSERS:

* XTools by Xenon... who greedily horde their hardware-accelerated OpenGL code
   while their outdated snapshot of the open-source XFree86 gets older 
and older.

* GNU/Darwin... morons who want to reduce Darwin to Linux... they'll dump Aqua!

* the extremely slow-motion VNC people... you can flip pages faster



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