Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-11-05 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
05.11.2015 9:44, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > But imagine a more generic case - company X has 2 plugin modules > containing each some plugins without source code but with same > registration names. That plugins should be loaded in parallel. Renaming > a file with plugin module is trivial, but how to refe

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-11-05 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 11/04/2015 01:07 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 31/10/2015 11:41, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> On 10/30/2015 08:53 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> On 30/10/2015 11:57, Alex Peshkoff wrote: On 10/30/2015 04:00 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 30/10/2015 1

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-11-04 Thread Vlad Khorsun
04.11.2015 12:07, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > Looks like plugins are loaded on-demand, and the problems come from that. > > IMO all plugins should be loaded. I'm against such nonsense, sorry. Or i not understand you (it happens) Regards, Vlad --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-11-04 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 31/10/2015 11:41, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > On 10/30/2015 08:53 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 30/10/2015 11:57, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >>> On 10/30/2015 04:00 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 30/10/2015 10:57, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 30/10/2015 10:5

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-31 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/30/2015 08:53 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 30/10/2015 11:57, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> On 10/30/2015 04:00 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> On 30/10/2015 10:57, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 30/10/2015 10:53, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 30.10.2015 13

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 30/10/2015 11:57, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > On 10/30/2015 04:00 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 30/10/2015 10:57, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> On 30/10/2015 10:53, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: 30.10.2015 13:35, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > I said that externa

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/30/2015 04:00 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 30/10/2015 10:57, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 30/10/2015 10:53, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >>> 30.10.2015 13:35, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: I said that external plugins are not loaded without editing Firebir

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 13:57, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > What's the [Firebird] type of this plugin? Forget it. I'm sorry, I forgot that Avalerion don't use Firebird's plugin loading system. PS: Firebird has no replication plugins. -- WBR, SD. --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 30/10/2015 10:57, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 30/10/2015 10:53, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >> 30.10.2015 13:35, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> I said that external plugins are not loaded without editing Firebird >>> supplied configuration files. >>Avalerion's CDC plugin

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 30/10/2015 10:53, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 30.10.2015 13:35, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> I said that external plugins are not loaded without editing Firebird >> supplied configuration files. >Avalerion's CDC plugin is loaded perfectly well without editing > plugins.conf. > Wha

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 13:35, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > I said that external plugins are not loaded without editing Firebird > supplied configuration files. Avalerion's CDC plugin is loaded perfectly well without editing plugins.conf. -- WBR, SD. --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 30/10/2015 10:29, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 30.10.2015 13:25, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> But Adriano is talking about a place for information that currently must >> go into plugins.conf and we try to find a solution that does not require >> editing plugins.conf when such info must be set on plugi

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 13:25, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > But Adriano is talking about a place for information that currently must > go into plugins.conf and we try to find a solution that does not require > editing plugins.conf when such info must be set on plugin install. AFAIU, Adriano said that config from

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/30/2015 02:33 PM, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 30.10.2015 12:28, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> I can agree with it. Just to make it explicit - a method of locating >> file with_internal_ configuration values by name of plugin with >> extension changed to .conf must be dropped in that case. Is it OK

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 12:24, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > You did not pay attention to >> >There are 2 types of plugin configuration > As a minimum them must be separated one from another Frankly, I see no point in "two types of plugin configuration". -- WBR, SD. --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 12:28, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > I can agree with it. Just to make it explicit - a method of locating > file with_internal_ configuration values by name of plugin with > extension changed to .conf must be dropped in that case. Is it OK? To make explicit: a) Every plugin has PluginName

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/30/2015 02:02 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 30/10/2015 06:59, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> On 10/29/2015 06:53 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> On 29/10/2015 13:42, Alex Peshkoff wrote: On 10/29/2015 06:26 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > Hi! > >

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/30/2015 01:14 PM, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 30.10.2015 11:07, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> When writing include file one anyway must have Plugin-Name and {} pair >> in it > Why? If config file has the same name as plugin module and is in the same > place, why to > make users additional trou

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 30/10/2015 06:59, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > On 10/29/2015 06:53 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 29/10/2015 13:42, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >>> On 10/29/2015 06:26 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: Hi! Initial implementation of external engines didn't needed to edit >>

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 11:07, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > When writing include file one anyway must have Plugin-Name and {} pair > in it Why? If config file has the same name as plugin module and is in the same place, why to make users additional troubles with its format? -- WBR, SD. ---

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/30/2015 12:46 PM, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 30.10.2015 9:59, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> Not at all - if we decide to keep .conf files for plugins in >> plugins/conf (or where-ever else) and use wildcard include in plugins.conf: >> >> include $(DIR_PLUGINS)/conf/*.conf >> >> Do you want me to d

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
30.10.2015 9:59, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > Not at all - if we decide to keep .conf files for plugins in > plugins/conf (or where-ever else) and use wildcard include in plugins.conf: > > include $(DIR_PLUGINS)/conf/*.conf > > Do you want me to do changes? Before doing that consider the case when tw

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/29/2015 06:53 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 29/10/2015 13:42, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> On 10/29/2015 06:26 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Initial implementation of external engines didn't needed to edit >>> Firebird configuration files. You could just dr

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-29 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 29/10/2015 13:42, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > On 10/29/2015 06:26 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Initial implementation of external engines didn't needed to edit >> Firebird configuration files. You could just drop files in the plugins >> directory and they worked. >> >> Now tha

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-29 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 10/29/2015 06:26 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > Hi! > > Initial implementation of external engines didn't needed to edit > Firebird configuration files. You could just drop files in the plugins > directory and they worked. > > Now that seems broken. File plugins/udr_engine.conf seems

Re: [Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-29 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
29.10.2015 16:26, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > Now that seems broken. File plugins/udr_engine.conf seems to be > completely unused. > > There is a plugins.conf file needing every plugin to be configured there. It works fine for my plugin. Something should be broken in udr_engine itself

[Firebird-devel] Cannot easily install plugins

2015-10-29 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
Hi! Initial implementation of external engines didn't needed to edit Firebird configuration files. You could just drop files in the plugins directory and they worked. Now that seems broken. File plugins/udr_engine.conf seems to be completely unused. There is a plugins.conf file needing every plu