Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread liviuslivius
-Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Mark Rotteveel Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 8:24 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider On 8-12-2014 20:11, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:33:59 +0100, liviusliv

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 8-12-2014 20:11, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:33:59 +0100, liviuslivius > wrote: >> Ok, >> >> now i see - .Net provider should use Legacy mode? >> I wrongly supposed that it support FB3 options? >> I use default from FBConfig - then i suppose it is Srp. >> WireCry

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread liviuslivius
-Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Mark Rotteveel Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 9:26 AM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:33:59 +0100, liviuslivius wrote: > Ok, > > now i see - .Net provider s

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Starkey
If sha-1 were a perfect cyptological hash, the probability of a hash collision for a given password would be 1 in 2^160, which, incidentally, is a huge, honking, big number. It isn't however, so the probability is a lttle less. Still, using all of the computing resources on earth the many, man

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Starkey
And, no, the probablity of a cryptographic hash collision is not a function of source string length. Part of the definition of a cryptological hash or encryption algorithm is that a one bit change in the source string results in, on average, in changes to 50% of the output bits. A short passwor

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:33:16 +0300, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > On 12/08/14 14:02, Mark Rotteveel wrote: >> On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:44:36 +0300, Alex Peshkoff >> wrote: >>> Yes. For password >20 bytes sooner of all exists shorter one with same >>> hash value. >> But that is technically irrelevant. > >

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 12/08/14 14:02, Mark Rotteveel wrote: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:44:36 +0300, Alex Peshkoff > wrote: >> Yes. For password >20 bytes sooner of all exists shorter one with same >> hash value. > But that is technically irrelevant. As long as we do not talk about brute force. > Although identical h

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:44:36 +0300, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > Yes. For password >20 bytes sooner of all exists shorter one with same > hash value. But that is technically irrelevant. Although identical hashes are certain due to pigeon holing, that doesn't mean shorter passwords (or passwords near t

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 12/08/14 12:24, Helen Borrie wrote: > At 09:31 p.m. 8/12/2014, Mark Rotteveel wrote: >> On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:48:21 +1300, Helen Borrie >> wrote: >>> The release notes in your Fb3 download kit are missing the Compatibility >>> chapter (Ch. 12), which explains what you need to do. >>> >>> Pleas

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:24:17 +1300, Helen Borrie wrote: >>Chapter 12 says: >> >>"An effective password, using the default user manager Srp, can be up to >>20 characters. If you have already configured the server to use legacy >>authentication (see below >>), or you intend to do so, then only the f

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Helen Borrie
At 09:31 p.m. 8/12/2014, Mark Rotteveel wrote: >On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:48:21 +1300, Helen Borrie >wrote: >> The release notes in your Fb3 download kit are missing the Compatibility >> chapter (Ch. 12), which explains what you need to do. >> >> Please download the newest build of the release notes

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:48:21 +1300, Helen Borrie wrote: > The release notes in your Fb3 download kit are missing the Compatibility > chapter (Ch. 12), which explains what you need to do. > > Please download the newest build of the release notes from here: > > http://web.firebirdsql.org/download/

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:33:59 +0100, liviuslivius wrote: > Ok, >   > now i see - .Net provider should use Legacy mode? > I wrongly supposed that it support FB3 options? > I use default from FBConfig - then i suppose it is Srp. > WireCrypt default is Enabled as i see in comments. No, it isn't the d

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-08 Thread Helen Borrie
At 09:17 a.m. 8/12/2014, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: > >>The release notes in your Fb3 download kit are missing the Compatibility > >>chapter (Ch. 12), which explains what you need to do. >>Please download the > >>newest build of the release notes from here: > http://web.firebirdsql

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread liviuslivius
...@poczta.onet.pl Aan: "For discussion among Firebird Developers" Onderwerp: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider Datum: zo, dec. 7, 2014 23:05 -Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Dmitry Yemanov Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 9:31 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers S

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread m...@lawinegevaar.nl
opers" Onderwerp: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider Datum: zo, dec. 7, 2014 23:05 -Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Dmitry Yemanov Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 9:31 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider 07.12.2014 23:17,

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread liviuslivius
-Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Dimitry Sibiryakov Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 9:34 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider 07.12.2014 21:31, Dmitry Yemanov wrote: > It could be either misconfigured server (ServerAuth) or

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread liviuslivius
-Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Dmitry Yemanov Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 9:31 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider 07.12.2014 23:17, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: > > I can connect to FB3 from flamerobin an

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
07.12.2014 21:31, Dmitry Yemanov wrote: > It could be either misconfigured server (ServerAuth) or the same > protocol issue as Jaybird experiences. But why error message is "connection is rejected" instead of "your user name and password are not defined"?.. -- WBR, SD. -

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
07.12.2014 23:17, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: > > I can connect to FB3 from flamerobin and from Delphi applications. Using which fbclient version? > But i can not from .Net from VS 2013 by .Net provider It could be either misconfigured server (ServerAuth) or the same protocol issue as Ja

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread liviuslivius
-Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Helen Borrie Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 7:48 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider At 05:39 a.m. 8/12/2014, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: >Hi, > >i can not connect to firebird 3

Re: [Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread Helen Borrie
At 05:39 a.m. 8/12/2014, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: >Hi, > >i can not connect to firebird 3 from .Net >I do not know if this is becaouse of >net provider > >my connection string is: >character set=UTF8;client library="C:\Users\livius\Documents\Visual Studio >2013\Projects\TestFB3\TestFB3

[Firebird-devel] FB3 and .Net provider

2014-12-07 Thread liviuslivius
Hi, i can not connect to firebird 3 from .Net I do not know if this is becaouse of >net provider my connection string is: character set=UTF8;client library="C:\Users\livius\Documents\Visual Studio 2013\Projects\TestFB3\TestFB3\bin\fbclient.dll";data source=127.0.0.1;initial catalog=S:\plemiona.