I have noticed that the FB4 snapshot builds for Windows include the icu
files icudt52.dll, etc.
They probably should not be installed for Windows 10 Version 1703
(Creators Update) onwards. Does the Windows installer make such a check
and only install the icu files for older versions of Windows
On 28/04/2020 10:13, Tony Whyman wrote:
> I have noticed that the FB4 snapshot builds for Windows include the
> icu files icudt52.dll, etc.
>
> They probably should not be installed for Windows 10 Version 1703
> (Creators Update) onwards. Does the Windows installer make such a
> check and only inst
On 28/04/2020 14:22, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
Databases (indexes) depends on ICU being the same (same sort key
version) or they need to be backed-up and restored (with gbak) to be
fully functional.
That surprises me, as I thought that a TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE was
stored as a GMT tim
On 28/04/2020 14:22, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
I advise not to do that same thing in Windows as done in Linux, using
the OS ICU.
In Linux situation is less complex, it's a server OS. I also think it
was an incorrect thing started without notice by the distro people.
So is the ICU use
28.04.2020 16:13, Tony Whyman wrote:
I have noticed that the FB4 snapshot builds for Windows include the icu files
icudt52.dll, etc.
ICU52 included into FB3. FB4 includes ICU63.
They probably should not be installed for Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update) onwards. Does the Windows insta
On 28-04-2020 15:28, Tony Whyman wrote:
On 28/04/2020 14:22, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
Databases (indexes) depends on ICU being the same (same sort key
version) or they need to be backed-up and restored (with gbak) to be
fully functional.
That surprises me, as I thought that a TIMESTAM
Apologies. I forgot to mention that I was worrying about using the ICU
for the time zone database rather than character sets.
On 28/04/2020 14:39, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
On 28-04-2020 15:28, Tony Whyman wrote:
On 28/04/2020 14:22, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
Databases (indexes) depends
On 28/04/2020 10:29, Tony Whyman wrote:
> On 28/04/2020 14:22, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
>> I advise not to do that same thing in Windows as done in Linux, using
>> the OS ICU.
>>
>> In Linux situation is less complex, it's a server OS. I also think it
>> was an incorrect thing started wi
On 28-04-2020 15:43, Tony Whyman wrote:
Apologies. I forgot to mention that I was worrying about using the ICU
for the time zone database rather than character sets.
Why does that worry you?
Mark
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On 28/04/2020 14:47, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
On 28-04-2020 15:43, Tony Whyman wrote:
Apologies. I forgot to mention that I was worrying about using the
ICU for the time zone database rather than character sets.
Why does that worry you?
Mark
Because my understanding is that the ICU is the sour
On 28/04/2020 10:55, Tony Whyman wrote:
> On 28/04/2020 14:47, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
>> On 28-04-2020 15:43, Tony Whyman wrote:
>>> Apologies. I forgot to mention that I was worrying about using the
>>> ICU for the time zone database rather than character sets.
>>
>> Why does that worry you?
>>
>>
On 28/04/2020 14:59, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/blob/master/doc/sql.extensions/README.time_zone.md#updating-the-time-zone-database
This text applies to building firebird. I am worrying about the end
user's strategy. My point is that there will
On 28-04-2020 16:05, Tony Whyman wrote:
On 28/04/2020 14:59, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/blob/master/doc/sql.extensions/README.time_zone.md#updating-the-time-zone-database
This text applies to building firebird. I am worrying about the end
u
On 28/04/2020 11:05, Tony Whyman wrote:
>
> On 28/04/2020 14:59, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
>>
>> https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/blob/master/doc/sql.extensions/README.time_zone.md#updating-the-time-zone-database
>>
>>
> This text applies to building firebird.
You are wrong, maybe
On 28/04/2020 15:11, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
On 28/04/2020 11:05, Tony Whyman wrote:
On 28/04/2020 14:59, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/blob/master/doc/sql.extensions/README.time_zone.md#updating-the-time-zone-database
This text appl
On 28/04/2020 11:26, Tony Whyman wrote:
>
>
> On 28/04/2020 15:11, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
>> On 28/04/2020 11:05, Tony Whyman wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2020 14:59, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/blob/master/doc/sql.extensions/README.time_zone
28.04.2020 17:26, Tony Whyman wrote:
If I am wrong, it may be because the instructions are not clear. The README
file says:
"The content of the zip file must be extracted in the |tzdata| subdirectory of Firebird's root, overwriting the others |*.res| files
of the old database.
Note: |/tzdat
So, I guess this has been added since beta 1. I can see it in the latest
Windows snapshot, but not in the latest Linux snapshot.
So the README should make clear that the tzdata directory only applies
to the Windows builds?
Back to my original concern. While the README file gives an outline of
Den 2020-04-28 kl. 15:59, skrev Adriano dos Santos Fernandes:
On 28/04/2020 10:55, Tony Whyman wrote:
Because my understanding is that the ICU is the source of the time
zone database and will have to be updated every time a time zone
changes or there are changes to the dates for daylight savings
On 28/04/2020 15:10, Kjell Rilbe wrote:
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/blob/master/doc/sql.extensions/README.time_zone.md#updating-the-time-zone-database
As a Firebird user I would suggest that this article/info is clearly
stated in every version of Firebird release notes, and also th
On 28/04/2020 11:40, Vlad Khorsun wrote:
>
> Linux snapshot builds contains nor ICU
It's ok.
> , nor tzdata.
It's not ok.
Adriano
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:13:20 +0100
Tony Whyman wrote:
> One reason that I could not check this is that I couldn't find any Windows
> Installer source files in the source code distribution. Does Firebird use
> Open Source WIX XML files for the installer or some proprietary tool to
> create the .m
On 2020-04-28 16:55, Tony Whyman wrote:
2. There is a risk of a stealth (ICU) upgrade under Linux if the
upgrade affects indexes that depend upon character set collation
sequences.
FYI - gfix is ready to help with this, it's enough to use switch:
-icu fix database to be u
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