Re: [Firebird-devel] The invisible generator and the rdb$ prefix

2014-04-04 Thread Leyne, Sean
> Changing gbak so it backs up user enhancements to the system tables is just > programming, and restoring them after the base table are created isn't hard, > but both go against the V3 goal of shutting users out of system space. It depends on your view/definition of "system space" or "system ob

Re: [Firebird-devel] The invisible generator and the rdb$ prefix

2014-04-04 Thread Ann Harrison
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Claudio Valderrama C. wrote: > > > > AFAIK, you can put triggers on sys tables and they last until the last > attachment finished. When the db is loaded again, those triggers do not > load. I don't know if that changed recently, but was this way since I > remember.

Re: [Firebird-devel] The invisible generator and the rdb$ prefix

2014-04-03 Thread Claudio Valderrama C.
> -Original Message- > From: Leyne, Sean [mailto:s...@broadviewsoftware.com] > Sent: Domingo, 30 de Marzo de 2014 14:31 > To: For discussion among Firebird Developers > > Claudio, > > > To the dismay of Sean, I continue saying that while we > don't declare "name > > independence" and co

Re: [Firebird-devel] The invisible generator and the rdb$ prefix

2014-03-30 Thread Leyne, Sean
Claudio, > To the dismay of Sean, I continue saying that while we don't declare "name > independence" and continue relying on RDB$ for some decisions, it's better > to forbit the RDB$ prefix for user objects. See, for example: That is not want I was/am saying. I have problem with forbidding RDB$

Re: [Firebird-devel] The invisible generator and the rdb$ prefix

2014-03-30 Thread Jim Starkey
The wolf in Manchester pleads not guilty. A cursory examination of the Vulcan code exposed the following code snippet in MET_lookup_index_name: if (!gen_id) { strcpy (name, "RDB$GENERATORS"); return; } Any student of wolf-code will understand that the wo

[Firebird-devel] The invisible generator and the rdb$ prefix

2014-03-29 Thread Claudio Valderrama C.
Oedipus found the sphinx near Thebes and the monster asked: "what is the thing that cannot be seen but can be called by name to change it?" Oedipus replied "it's RDB$GENERATORS" and the sphinx committed suicide. Now if we replace the sphinx by a wolf, the wolf at Massachusetts asks: "in the releas