Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
On Mar 20, 2011, at 4:18 PM, joe.bren...@bluewin.ch wrote: > ... I am convinced that for further progress in information, let alone other > matters, some recognition of the limitations of Peirce may have to be > recognized. John's statement that "pragmatics means action" can be applicable > to

[Fis] On uniformity

2011-03-21 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
On Mar 15, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Jerry LR Chandler wrote: > > v.547.8 Steven writes: > > "However, that does not avoid the fact that the universe is profoundly > uniform and it is that uniformity upon which we rely." > > I disagree. > for reasoning see comment to v547.12 > > > v547.12 Steven wr

[Fis] replying to Joseph, Loet

2011-03-21 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Replying to Joseph -- On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, joe.bren...@bluewin.ch < joe.bren...@bluewin.ch> wrote: Dear John, Pedro, Jerry and All, -snip- In my view, this simply displaces the problem further, since the Peircean categories themselves are derivative, epistemological constructions

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Loet, Joe, Fis colleagues >Nowadays, the possibility of theory-free observations – e.g., Carnap – is much >more doubtful. Most of >us will have given up on this “realistic” position. This is a very interesting issue. It seems to me very reasonable to claim that for any observation one has

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
To paraphrase Antonio Salieri's famous "Prima la musica, dopo le parole", I say "first reality, then the signs". Dear Joseph: “allegro, ma non troppo”! In the 18th century, “nature” is still considered as God’s creation and therefore has priority to our (human) wordings and signings. Thus