Re: [Fis] Chemo-informatics as the source of morphogenesis - both practical and logical.

2011-10-18 Thread karl javorszky
Dear Loet and Jerry, let me comment on your interesting exchange: you write: one studies specific arrangements and configurations. (I mentioned graphs.) However, the red herring emerges when these configurations are made the subject of "information theory" (in contrast to "informatics") without f

Re: [Fis] Chemo-informatics as the source of morphogenesis - both practical and logical.

2011-10-18 Thread Gavin Ritz
Karl Dear Loet and Jerry, let me comment on your interesting exchange: you write: one studies specific arrangements and configurations. (I mentioned graphs.) However, the red herring emerges when these configurations are made the subject of "information theory" (in contrast to "informatics

Re: [Fis] Chemo-informatics as the source of morphogenesis - both practical and logical.

2011-10-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Michel, Jerry and Loet, Welcome back to the fray, Jerry, but I recall a kind of "gentlemen's agreement" we made at our meeting in Liège, namely, that I can find a place for your theory, but you should reciprocally find a place for mine! In the following, I will try to disentangle two major

Re: [Fis] Chemo-informatics as the source of morphogenesis - both practical and logical.

2011-10-18 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
> without excluding either. And without confounding one another! We are able to specify the differences and then to translate meaningfully between different discourses. Best, Loet ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/

[Fis] Category Theory and Information. Back to Basics

2011-10-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Gavin, Loet and Colleagues, Gavin raises a fair question as to the reasons for my objection to the use of category theory with respect to information. My answer is that it suffers from the same limitations as standard truth-functional logic, set theory and mereology: Logic: absolute separa

Re: [Fis] Category Theory and Information. Back to Basics

2011-10-18 Thread Gavin Ritz
Hi Joseph Dear Gavin, Loet and Colleagues, Gavin raises a fair question as to the reasons for my objection to the use of category theory with respect to information. My answer is that it suffers from the same limitations as standard truth-functional logic, set theory and mereology:

Re: [Fis] Category Theory and Information. Back to Basics

2011-10-18 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Joseph -- On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > ** > Dear Gavin, Loet and Colleagues, > > Gavin raises a fair question as to the reasons for my objection to the use > of category theory > with respect to information. My answer is that it suffers from the same > limitations as