Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

2015-06-13 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Caro John e cari Tutti, a conforto dell'e-mail inviata questa mattina, ricordo che all'INTERNO dei buchi neri si avrebbe una minore entropia (o una maggiore neg-entropia) rispetto alla maggiore entropia (o una maggiore neg-entropia) ESTERNA. Tutto ciò deve essere bilanciato da una maggiore

[Fis] Fw: Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

2015-06-13 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Colleagues, I completely agree with Krassimir's position and on the importance of the issue on which it taken. Neither he nor I wish to say that there cannot be models and insights for science in religious beliefs, such as the Kabbala, but then John's diagram would be more appropriate if

Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

2015-06-13 Thread John Collier
Paul Davies believes in something like that. The other “it from bit”ers, no. So I don’t know why you say that, Krassimir. I took the structure below directly from uses that appear in scientific sources, not from some a priori consideration. Each nesting generates hypotheses that can be tested

[Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

2015-06-13 Thread Joseph Brenner
- Original Message - From: Joseph Brenner To: fis Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:13 AM Subject: Fw: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies! Dear Colleagues, I completely agree with Krassimir's position and on the importance of the issue on which it taken.

Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

2015-06-13 Thread John Collier
Dear Joseph, List, I am running past my allotment, so I will shut up after this for a while. (I have to go to California for a workshop in any case, and won’t have much internet access for the two days I am traveling.) The “it from bit” view was developed (after its origins for other reasons I