[Fis] Curiouser and Curiouser . . .

2017-01-11 Thread Marcus Abundis
Yes, Happy New Year to all! . . . But, I confess to some confusion. ● On seeing the offered New Years session, I wondered 'Why? Hasn't this issue long been overtaken by events?' Still I was happy to follow along and see if I might learn something new . . . but it seems my initial intuition was cor

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
I like this response from Lou,Otto From: Louis H Kauffman To: Pedro C. Marijuan Cc: fis Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] A Curious Story Dear Folks,It is very important to not be hasty and assume that the warning Professor Rossler made is to be taken ser

Re: [Fis] Game over! A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
From: "tozziart...@libero.it" To: fis Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:32 PM Subject: [Fis] Game over! A Curious Story "The operation of the LHC is safe, not only in the old sense of that word, but in the more general sense that our most qualified scientists have thoroughly co

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
Dear Plamen: I love your response.But: it misses my point: The fact that I have provided a proof since 9 years' time (often published) as to why the experiment represents a sizeable risk. Everyone in physics is invited to invalidate my proof. I am not against taking unknown risks in science. I a

Re: [Fis] Game over! A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
great From: Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov To: tozziart...@libero.it Cc: fis Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] Game over! A Curious Story Well, these are only citations. What if all of them are wrong? What if the data that were measured are incorrect? We have had

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Gyorgy Darvas
Dear All, I follow O. Rössler's concerns for a few years. As a physicist (who is probably not the best specialist in the black hole physics), I do not want to involve in detailed physical explanations and mathematical proofs for information specialists, not certainly specialised in physics.

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
I conform with Geörgyi's tale. From: Gyorgy Darvas To: fis Cc: Otto E. Rossler ; Louis H Kauffman ; Pedro C. Marijuan Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] A Curious Story Dear All, I follow O. Rössler's concerns for a few years. As a physicist (who is pr

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Robert E. Ulanowicz
Dear Prof. Roessler: My training in quantum physics lies over a half-century in the past, so I cannot add or detract from the specifics of this issue without exposing my ignorance. I can only respond as an engineer with a devotion to the field of dimensional analysis. I note that the Planck const

Re: [Fis] What is information? and What is life?

2017-01-11 Thread Christophe
Dear Terry, Are you really sure that looking at linking Shannon to higher-order conceptions of information like meaning is a realistic ambition? I compare that to linking the width of a street to the individual motivations of the persons that will walk in the street. As we know, Shannon is to mea

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear Otto, On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:05, Otto E. Rossler wrote: Dear Plamen: I love your response. But: it misses my point: The fact that I have provided a proof since 9 years' time (often published) as to why the experiment represents a sizeable risk. Everyone in physics is invited to invali

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
Thank you very much, dear Bob (if I may call you so) for your open letter which could as well have come from Dirac himself (whom my wife and I once met when we attended the same conference in Miami). I realize I have a little contribution to make with my suggested answer for you: c-global impl

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
Dear Bruno: You are the same fair mind as ever. Rare contacts never destroy friendships.Since you asked, I have a new result, it is due to Einstein up until 19011, but was given up by him at the time through an oversight (his mind had been "seared" by thinking too much bout the equivalence princ

Re: [Fis] A Curious Story

2017-01-11 Thread Otto E. Rossler
https://www.researchgate.net/search.Search.html?type=publication&query=szilamandee From: Otto E. Rossler To: Gyorgy Darvas ; fis Cc: Louis H Kauffman ; Pedro C. Marijuan Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] A Curious Story I conform with Geörgyi's tale.