Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-27 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Loet and colleagues, One of the advantages of a new discipline is the simplification of discourse, the creation of a new space where you can easily build new knowledge without copious management of other unnecessary, circumstantial ideas. I have already quoted in this list the famous quo

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos. Logic and a language of process.

2017-10-27 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Colleagues, In all humility, I have asked why a non-standard logic of processes might not transcend our specializations as part of the 'provisional solution'. I would still hope to get a response to my question in this cosmic cycle . . . If we look at Terry's note of October 25, we can see

Re: [Fis] Data - Reflection - Information

2017-10-27 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi FISers, Reading the recent posts on "information" and related issues by Terry, Joseph, Pedro, Mark, Krassimir, Loet, and others suggested to me the following possible definition of information (see Table 1) that may be consistent with those proposed by Terry, Shannon, Volkenstein, Saussur

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-27 Thread Koichiro Matsuno
On 27 Oct 2017 at 3:09 AM, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: the cogitatum which transcends us is intersubjectivity. It is not physical. The physical is res extensa, whereas this remains res cogitans. Loet, let me hope this will not merely be a quibble about the terms. We may say that the physic