Re: [Fis] FW: fis Digest, Vol 570, Issue 2

2013-04-15 Thread Rafael Capurro
Bill, if you go to http://www.capurro.de/info5.html you will find on p. 225 ff my interpretation of MacKay's information concept in the context of other theories of that time See particularly footnote 440: Information: that which determines form and that which justifies representational

[Fis] FW: fis Digest, Vol 570, Issue 2

2013-04-14 Thread John Collier
I am afraid that it was my fault. I thought I recalled a quote, but actually it is an interpretation of Mackay. Sorry about that. Amazing that it spread so much, but that probably reflects that it is endemic in Mackay's work. John -Original Message- From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es

Re: [Fis] FW: fis Digest, Vol 570, Issue 2

2013-04-14 Thread Bill Seaman
Dear All, I visited the von Foerster / Pask Cybernetics Archive in Vienna (which includes many MacKay texts) and went into depth related to MacKay in the spring of last year. It is very interesting to read his ideas about information as compared to the Shannon and Weaver's