This message is from: Robin Churchill <rbc...@yahoo.com>

I understand that you are not supposed to treat if the horse mugs you or
demands a treat. I think if you like CT that's great but I think it takes
considerable skill to get the timing of it and I guess after the first couple
minutes when it's really cool, I find it time-consuming and boring. I'm sure
it has a place in the training spectrum but it seems to me that I can train my
horses to do the same things with much less effort and faster with whatever it
is that I do. I'm sure there are people on the list and elsewhere that are
more skilled at horse training particularly under saddle training but I tend
to be pretty good with all the ground handling things and my under saddle
training skills are improving particularly now that I have 2 horses that are
well-suited to my temperament. For example, I can consistently load my 3 on
the trailer in probably 6 minutes--the time it takes to walk them to the
trailer from the barn. I don't know how I trained
 them to do it, partially by practicing when we are not under pressure and by
putting treats and hay in the trailer but mostly because they "respect" me and
when I tell them to get on the trailer, they get on, even if they are not
thrilled about it.  Similarly, I didn't teach Magnus to self-load, I walked
him on the trailer the first few times and he went because I said so, then one
day, I just threw the rope over his neck and he walked on and has ever since.
Now Levi, that's another story but I think it is harder to get them to
self-load in a box stall which is where he goes when I haul 3 horses which is
at least once a month. Maybe I just have easy to handle horses, but as far as
trailering goes, I don't think the way you get a horse on a trailer is not for
him to know he's going on, it's because you know he's going on. I personally
think most of this stuff is in the trainer's head and it's their "aura" and
confidence that get the horse to do what
 they want. And the NH stuff gives people a method and confidence and that's
what makes it work. I also think there is something to the idea that whoever
moves the horse is the boss. I have seen horses that are boss move other
horses and personally experienced how much more respectful and submissive the
horse is when the trainer moves him/her.  Once I was lunging a horse that kept
falling in and didn't really respect pointing the whip at the shoulder. When
he would fall in, I would back up then I thought "wait a minute--this horse is
moving me" Next thing I did was step forward boldly when he tried to fall in.
Guess what, he went out on the circle and stayed there. From then on, I paid
attention and didn't let a horse back me up when lunging again. Sometimes you
just have to be smarter than the horse :)
 
Robin

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