This message is from: SUSAN GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Eileen! We use draft harness and collars quite a bit and just make sure when the collar is put on that the mane isn't pulled back or stuck ..........we run our hand up inside to have the mane be upright.....not that it isn't "squished" for a bit ....but it comes right back to being normal and you usually can't tell there was a collar on it!. It does help if the mane is kept trimmed,,,,,I know some thin manes can stay standing straight up and be about six or seven inches tall! This then will show some "messy hairs" after having a collar on... When I use my driving harness which has the strap for the breast collar.......it doesn't leave a "mark" where it was ....even after a "four day travel " with a wagon train from southern to norther VT. I wouldn't cut anything out for either of these.....collar or breast collar strap......just make sure your mane is cut and keep it trimmed......no marks should show!! Hope this helps! Sue in Northfield, MA where the sun has been out fo! r three days and the temps have been in the 60's !!!!!