RE: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Merrill, Jason
This doesn't have to be a particularly accurate thing - I just want it to sound something like a piano. I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files. It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Kerry Thompson
Jason Merrill wrote: I was going to say something similar to what Kerry said - taking samples from the real world as separate MP3 files.  It would seem to be pretty easy (albeit somewhat time consuming) to do that if you had a moderately OK mic (even one from Best Buy) and access to a

RE: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Merrill, Jason
I wonder how much of that you could realistically control using volume settings in Actionscript on the sound? Not realistic enough? Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From:

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread tom rhodes
multisampled pianos are available without having to record it all yourself! you'd still have to be loading a hell of a lot of wavs for it to sound half decent though, and probably code up something to handle the release of the keys properly... On 8 February 2011 16:27, Kerry Thompson

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread tom rhodes
not realistic enough no, but the OP did say it could be simple and not have to be too accurate. in which case multisampling each note would be overkill. i'd look for piano samples online (there will be oodles) and start messing with them and if it sounds ok to you then go with it... On 8

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Glen Pike
At this point, you might want to take advantage of one of the synth libraries of AS3 and use the mp3 files as your wave-table then add your filters envelope generators just like a normal sample-based synth. Probably overkill for an online distraction, but if you are going for quality /

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread tom rhodes
interesting i thought those examples were generating a waveform? did that ever get packaged as a library? i remember it from a few years back but haven't looked since... On 8 February 2011 17:03, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: At this point, you might want to take advantage of one

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Glen Pike
I think they are, but you could substitute your generated waveform for sound data from a file - the hack the system used relied on loading in a single mp3 then injecting sound data into it... Glen On 08/02/2011 16:18, tom rhodes wrote: interesting i thought those examples were generating a

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Kerry Thompson
Jason Merrill wrote: I wonder how much of that you could realistically control using volume settings in Actionscript on the sound?  Not realistic enough? - Probably realistic enough for the OP. He said he didn't need the realism. 88 keys is 7+ octaves--I'm

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Henrik Andersson
Kerry Thompson skriver: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Glen Pike
I think he was referring to velocity rather than frequency - velocity would be difficult from a computer keyboard - you just get on or off. If you were to change the attack and decay based on frequency, essentially, you could cheat and pre-apply the ADSR to a waveform unless you needed to

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Kerry Thompson
Henrik Andersson wrote: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? Of course you could base the volume control based on the frequency. You could emulate louder notes, but

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Henrik Andersson
Kerry Thompson skriver: Henrik Andersson wrote: ... and volume controls wouldn't be able to emulate different attacks. Yes they could. Who is to say that you can't make the control change based on the frequency? Of course you could base the volume control based on the frequency. You could

[Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7

2011-02-08 Thread Kevin McFarland
I would use midi, then. Midi capabilities are pretty much universal these days, and you'll need a lot smaller download. Plus, mp3's have a lag on startup--not bad, but it gets annoying pretty quickly. Midi won't have that problem. Except for the tiny detail that Flash doesn't do MIDI. Heh.

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi Guys - I go out for the afternoon to chat with the client and the list is alive with info about pianos! This is a low budget thing and not an attempt at emulating a Steinway. The actual project I can't really say much about but this is just a proof of concept thing that will decide what

Re: [Flashcoders] OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Kerry Thompson
Paul Andrews wrote: Hi Guys - I go out for the afternoon to chat with the client and the list is alive with info about pianos! This is a low budget thing and not an attempt at emulating a Steinway. I know. We know. But you know how we are--we get a bone between our teeth and we can't let go

[Flashcoders] Re: OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Alan Neilsen
I have also made a piano keyboard years ago and had the same problem. In the end I found a series of C notes from a grand piano and used SoundForge to change the pitch on the notes, thus extrapolating all the notes of the keyboard from those Cs. This message is for the named person’s use only.

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Peter B
This is why I love Flashcoders, and still lurk here despite not being actively involved in Flash development anymore. Great discussion :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: OTish MP3 files for a piano scale

2011-02-08 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
+1 On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Peter B wrote: This is why I love Flashcoders, and still lurk here despite not being actively involved in Flash development anymore. Great discussion :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com