Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-30 Thread Ian Thomas
On 11/30/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the automation of development and deployment processes: * To deploy the app on the production server, I'm thinking about using Capistrano; * On my development machine, I'm using ANT for the compiling and unit-testing

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-30 Thread Josh Santangelo
...and has the most unusable UI/workflow of any bug-tracking software I've ever used. Got no love for Mantis. TestTrack Pro is great if you're Windows-centric and willing to spend some money. http://www.seapine.com/ttpro.html In addition to web access, there's a Windows desktop client,

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-29 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hey guys, thank you all for the replies, it really helped me on deciding which one to choose. After some research, I've found trac to be the one with most advantages. Before closing the thread, I would like to ask a few question about trac and flash projects: * How do you handle projects that

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-29 Thread Ian Thomas
On 11/29/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * How do you handle projects that consists of a client (flash) and a server written in another language? A trac enviroment for both of them? No - we use the same environment for both, and Ant build scripts to install the

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-29 Thread l u c h y x
Yes I´m using Streber-PM here. But the file manager is pretty simple and doesn't support SVN. I think you need something like a mix of Streber+Track SVN. That's could be awesome. Luchyx On 11/29/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Hill
I'm really curious how you install your apps to the server using ant. We currently use svn update for some of our staging stuff. Which tasks do you use to install/deploy? I'd like to see something that would automatically synchronize via ftp in ant but I never thought doing something like that

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-29 Thread Ian Thomas
Hi Chris, It entirely depends on the project. There's an optional FTP task (requires some extra libs) that comes with Ant which we use for simple file uploads. Off the top of my head, we've used combinations of: - hand-written calls to SVN (i.e. using the exec task) to update and to tag -

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Anggie Bratadinata
I use Streber [ http://www.streber-pm.org ]. It's lightweight, easy to setup and to use. If you want a PM with more features, e.g. Gantt chart, I think PHProjekt is worth a look. -- Anggie Bratadinata www.masputih.com I N D O N E S I A Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: Hey guys, We've got

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Ian Thomas
Hi Marcelo, We use trac/wvn for all our projects and it works very well for us; and it does support simple user/password authentication. The only downside is that trac is designed to host only one project - multiple projects mean multiple databases (if you want to seperate tickets etc.) and

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Ian Thomas
I should add - I've used other systems in the past (notably Scarab for issue tracking and both VSS and CVS for issue tracking) and the current trac/SVN system beats them all hands down for ease-of-use and stability. HTH, Ian On 11/28/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcelo, We

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
hey Anggie, thanks for the tips :) On 11/28/06, Anggie Bratadinata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Streber [ http://www.streber-pm.org ]. It's lightweight, easy to setup and to use. If you want a PM with more features, e.g. Gantt chart, I think PHProjekt is worth a look. -- Anggie Bratadinata

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Ian Thomas
Err... trac/svn, obviously. It's been a bad day... On 11/28/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcelo, We use trac/wvn for all our projects and it works very well for us; and it does support simple user/password authentication. ___

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hi Ian, thanks for the reply! Is it overkill to setup multiple projects in trac ? I mean, does it take too much time and system resource to do so? We are not sure wether we go with trac or basecamp... I didn't really like the ones Anggie suggested (thanks for the suggestions anyway!) Marcelo.

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Better thinking (and after taking a deep look into Streber's website), Streber's seems to be good. I'll take a better look into it later. The good thing about it is that it's easy to install yet have features equivalent to trac and is simple as well, don't know if it has svn integration though

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Ian, I wonder how trac handles binary files with its SVN interface. I ask this becouse we still use lots of FLA on our projects, of course, only for layout and graphic assets. On 11/28/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/28/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Ian Thomas
Hi Marcelo, SVN handles binary data in the same way as most versioning systems i.e. not very well. (although better than CVS). The trouble is that SVN has no built-in knowledge of what a binary file (such as a fla) _is_, or how to compare it to previous versions; it only knows that the file

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hey Ian, thanks again :) I would like to know something else: What if you want to use trac as a ticket interface between you and your client. Clients could login and send tickets. However, let's say that I wouldn't like clients to see any code on the svn. Is this level of granularity possible on

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Ian Thomas
Hi Marcelo, To be perfectly honest, I have no idea. :-) Sorry! However, at the worst, trac uses web-based forms. There's nothing to stop you writing a custom front end for your client that then posts appropriate data to Trac. I'd suggest you just download it and have a play with the options;

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Ian Thomas
Oh - I should also point out that there are a bunch of plugins available, IIRC - one of them might have the functionality you need. Ian On 11/28/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcelo, To be perfectly honest, I have no idea. :-) Sorry! However, at the worst, trac uses

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Oh Ok.. thanks for the help! On 11/28/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh - I should also point out that there are a bunch of plugins available, IIRC - one of them might have the functionality you need. Ian On 11/28/06, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcelo, To be

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Hill
Sorry, just saw this post, hope i'm not being redundant or too OT. We use trac, but we don't use it with clients, only internally. We could potentially allow client access, but our custom-built system doesn't have much in the way of access control. Checking out the permissions page in my

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Hill
I apologize, but I said grant / deny, but you can only grant privileges in Trac. Chris Hill wrote: Sorry, just saw this post, hope i'm not being redundant or too OT. We use trac, but we don't use it with clients, only internally. We could potentially allow client access, but our

RE: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
If you're looking for bug/feature tracking for your clients, check out Mantis. It's easy to set up, customize (if you know php), and best of all, it's free. HTH, Steven ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search

Re: [Flashcoders] [OT] SCM/Project management tool

2006-11-28 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hi Steven, Mantis seems to be a good alternative to Trac. It seems to have all the features trac has plus a bunch more and still is simple and effective. I'm having problems installing mod_pythin on my cpanel enabled server so I'm considering other tool to use, and Mantis is certainly attractive