RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Kerry Thompson
Ron Wheeler wrote: > The Sound object discussed in http://code.google.com/p/popforge/ looked > promising. Thanks, Ron. They do talk about an AudioBuffer class that sounds interesting. I've downloaded it, and I'll take a look at it. I'll owe you and them a big thanks if it has some eye-opening c

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Wheeler
Kerry Thompson wrote: Ron Wheeler wrote: The in-memory concatenation looks good if it can be done in AS2 as well as AS3. I agree. Do you know of a way of doing it? I have a Playlist class that plays the sounds you choose, one after another, but I don't know of a way of concatenatin

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Kerry Thompson
Ron Wheeler wrote: > The in-memory concatenation looks good if it can be done in AS2 as well > as AS3. I agree. Do you know of a way of doing it? I have a Playlist class that plays the sounds you choose, one after another, but I don't know of a way of concatenating them like you would a string

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Wheeler
Kerry Thompson wrote: Ron Wheeler wrote: It is less obvious to the user if you miss the timing on a visual event than if you screw up the playing of music. You're probably right on that most of the time--that's why video will choose to drop a frame to keep in synch. It's also why vo

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Kerry Thompson
Ron Wheeler wrote: > It is less obvious to the user if you miss the timing on a visual event > than if you screw up the playing of music. You're probably right on that most of the time--that's why video will choose to drop a frame to keep in synch. It's also why voice-over for foreign-language

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Wheeler
Abe Pazos wrote: In my case there is a strong interactive part, and there is not enough time to send user interaction data to the server and then render the sound. And we have thousands of simultaneous users, so it's too much load for any cpu. It should not take long to render and thousands of us

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Abe Pazos
In my case there is a strong interactive part, and there is not enough time to send user interaction data to the server and then render the sound. And we have thousands of simultaneous users, so it's too much load for any cpu. Anyways I know there is client side sound generation, like the found i

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Wheeler
I would do it on the server side. Since you are using a stable set of notes, you could have a duplicate set on the server and have the Flash Player send the list that you want assembled and the server could return an MP3. You could also have the server save the sequence for later examination

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Wheeler
Eric E. Dolecki wrote: I think he means a prior composition No. I mean the one just generated. Ron Sent from my iPod On Jul 12, 2008, at 3:55 PM, "Kerry Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ron Wheeler wrote: If you have a playback button that plays the composed work, you can concatena

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-12 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
I think he means a prior composition Sent from my iPod On Jul 12, 2008, at 3:55 PM, "Kerry Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ron Wheeler wrote: If you have a playback button that plays the composed work, you can concatenate the sounds/notes "selected" and play the composed segment.

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-12 Thread Kerry Thompson
Ron Wheeler wrote: > If you have a playback button that plays the composed work, you can > concatenate the sounds/notes "selected" and play the composed segment. That's interesting--can that be done at runtime? How can you concatenate the sounds? Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-12 Thread Ron Wheeler
This approach has the potential to be extended to merge 2 or more generated tracks (instruments) with some consideration of volume balance between the tracks. One would concatenate the notes in each track, merge and balance the mp3s and play back the composite mp3 song. Ron Ron Wheeler wrote

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-12 Thread Ron Wheeler
If the composer is playing as notes are entered, timing is not an issue. Fancy electric organ for the typest :-) If you have a playback button that plays the composed work, you can concatenate the sounds/notes "selected" and play the composed segment. Ron Abe Pazos wrote: I guess this is

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-11 Thread Abe Pazos
I guess this is meant for Kerry? I think he IS playing songs in a sequence. Maybe he needs to synchronize graphic elements to the starting of parts? In my case, I've built a composer tool and the order is not predefined, actually is ever changing, so I can't merge the sounds. >Why not just conc

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-11 Thread Abe Pazos
Sure, too bad Flash doesn't include Midi and precise timing. FlashMidi only works in windows, it must be installed and uses non standard tricks to install. It's cool for custom art projects, but not for the general public on a web site, as required in my project (must run on standard Flash Play

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-11 Thread Ron Wheeler
Isn't MIDI designed for this type of application http://www.alexisisaac.net/products/flashMidi/ Ron Abe Pazos wrote: I don't understand how MP3 can take longer to start. Isn't the AIFF converted to MP3 anyways by the IDE? I'm preloading the MP3s from disk. I have generated them myself, so the

Re: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-11 Thread Ron Wheeler
Why not just concatenate the mp3 files into 1 file and play it as a single sound track? Ron Abe Pazos wrote: I don't understand how MP3 can take longer to start. Isn't the AIFF converted to MP3 anyways by the IDE? I'm preloading the MP3s from disk. I have generated them myself, so they are

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-10 Thread Kerry Thompson
Abe Pazos wrote: > I don't understand how MP3 can take longer to start. Isn't the AIFF converted > to > MP3 anyways by the IDE? Not necessarily. In CS3, Publish Settings, the Flash tab, Audio Stream and Audio Event both have a "set" button. You can control the bitrate of an mp3, or you can set

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-10 Thread Abe Pazos
I don't understand how MP3 can take longer to start. Isn't the AIFF converted to MP3 anyways by the IDE? I'm preloading the MP3s from disk. I have generated them myself, so they are trimmed until the last sample. Is there something that causes random delays when starting MP3s? To test the SOUN

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-09 Thread Kerry Thompson
> Hi! this has been probably asked before, but since I don't know how to search > the > lists (is it possible at all?): It's possible, but the Flashcoders archives got zapped when they had hardware problems last year. We also have archives on Flash_Tiger, as Jason mentioned. > I have built a Fl

RE: [Flashcoders] Is a precise timer for making rhythms possible?

2008-07-09 Thread Merrill, Jason
Check the Flash_Tiger list archives on Yahoo - we just had a huge discussion about this kind of thing with a question Kerry Thompson asked - about 1-2 weeks ago. Or ask there, Kerry Thompson (who may also be listening here) gathered a lot of info about this development problem. Jason Merrill B