[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-31 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know I shouldn't step in here, but I'd like to ask for a cease- fire. > > Faithful Flex developers may know that Amy was the guinea pig for Gordon and my first article in Flex Authority magazine where we discussed the

RE: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Harui
when we know how many we need. -Alex From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:38 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete --- In flexcoders@yaho

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amy, > I have read all that you have written. 2 years of sales, no complaints on > the algorithm I use. > > > So it very much matters where you create children when _other people_ are > going to be subclassing

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Tim Hoff
Anyone taking bets? -TH --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Amy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" > teoti.graphix@ wrote: > > > > Amy, > > > These functions are in place for very good reasons, and if you > try to > > circumvent them you have a

Re: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Schmalle
Amy, I have read all that you have written. 2 years of sales, no complaints on the algorithm I use. > So it very much matters where you create children when _other people_ are going to be subclassing your work. I have created a sub template in commitProperties(); That can be overridden from any s

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Clarification; > > Children can be created at any time AFTER super(). > > Since we all design software with a design, any property committal in a > super() call has nothing to do with an instance of a child you

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well big mouth has to say one more thing, > > Imagine commitProperties() committing property states :) , all of your > properties have been committed. Children can be created at any time AFTER > super(). > > W

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amy, > > These functions are in place for very good reasons, and if you try to > circumvent them you have a > really good chance of running into problems. > I will happily disagree with you on this and not say m

Re: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Schmalle
Clarification; > Children can be created at any time AFTER super(). Since we all design software with a design, any property committal in a super() call has nothing to do with an instance of a child you create in the subclass (this is bad design). Thus, the above logic holds true. Mike On Thu, O

Re: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Schmalle
well big mouth has to say one more thing, Imagine commitProperties() committing property states :) , all of your properties have been committed. Children can be created at any time AFTER super(). What you fail to see is commitProperties() is a glorified createChildren(). This only thing "cool" ab

Re: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Schmalle
Amy, > These functions are in place for very good reasons, and if you try to circumvent them you have a really good chance of running into problems. I will happily disagree with you on this and not say much else. I don't feel like getting into a pissing match with documentation, as I am sure this

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-29 Thread Eric Cooper
Thanks, Amy. I have decided that my own model is more convoluted than is healthy. So, I have reworked things on my side and stuck with createChildren(). I was tempted to try Mike's suggestion - and, had I felt really good about my implementation, I might have. At this point, with more checks

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-29 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > So, my question is does your approach address this by creating children > in > commitProperties() > Yes, > > This is basically what I do with all renderers in my commercial components. > I rarely u

Re: [flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi Eric, > So, my question is does your approach address this by creating children in commitProperties() Yes, This is basically what I do with all renderers in my commercial components. I rarely use createChildren(). The only time I use createChilren() is when the composite is 100% owned by it's p

[flexcoders] Re: UI component, a set function & creationComplete

2008-10-29 Thread Eric Cooper
Mike, I am wondering if what I am experiencing with createChildren() is similar to what you've described below. I am subclassing UIComponent - and I read that it is best to create children in a createChildren() method. However, I am tying into someone else's existing code and she has done some