RE: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > >Cameron Moore writes: >> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.01.16 15:11]: >> > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now >> > support this as an option: >> > >> > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ >> > >> > Server up and running for a s

RE: [Flightgear-devel] runway lights

2002-01-16 Thread VS Renganathan
Roman, Runway lights code is encapsulated using #ifdef FG_EXPERIMENTAL_LIGHTING and is being used (as far as I know, only by me so far) for deck lights on the carrier. Yes, the same could be used for runway lights too. The info on lights is intended to be held in the same file that holds vertex/po

RE: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> Martin. > P.S.: I _really_ believe it would be wise to separate FDM and FCS using a > clean interface - but this is different from the above ;-) In JSBSim it already is. There appears to be a misconception that the FDM and FCS are inappropriately linked together. In JSBSim the atmosphere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Martin Spott
[... Andy Ross wrote ...] > Here's a plausible black-box model: the FCS subsystem takes its > control inputs from the /controls/ property tree, and places its > output into the /fcs/ tree. So, we'd modify the FDM configurations to > look there instead, and no code change would be necessary. Aaa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] linux expo

2002-01-16 Thread John Check
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 10:55 pm, you wrote: > Hi John: > > How are you doing for help at the show? > > Altho not particularly interested in going back there for it, I'd consider > doing so if you are in dire need of help. > (And if I can convince my Wife that she needs a trip to NY.) > > > j

[Flightgear-devel] altitude hold fix

2002-01-16 Thread Jim Wilson
I've got some values that seem to work in the current autopilot code with the c310. They are: min_climb = 85.0 kts best_climb = 107.0 kts TargetClimbRate = 1500 fpm Also there is this adjustment factor (code snippet from newauto.cxx aprox line 697): // calculate proportional error prop_error =

RE: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> From: Andy Ross > In fact, this is a good example: a "real" F-16A (Dunno about the C) > flight control computer takes its input from a set of gyros and from > the position of the stick, and that's it The F-16 DFCS (beginning with Block 40) - and I suspect to some degree also the F-16A model -

[Flightgear-devel] linux expo

2002-01-16 Thread jj
Hi John: How are you doing for help at the show? Altho not particularly interested in going back there for it, I'd consider doing so if you are in dire need of help. (And if I can convince my Wife that she needs a trip to NY.) jj ___ Flightgear-de

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 17:41, Andy Ross wrote: > Tony Peden wrote: > > Andy Ross wrote: > > > This would be a good feature to look at breaking out of the FDM. At > > > its most reductionist, a FCS system compares (1) pilot control > > > inputs and (2) FDM output to produce control surface posi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Andy Ross
Tony Peden wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > This would be a good feature to look at breaking out of the FDM. At > > its most reductionist, a FCS system compares (1) pilot control > > inputs and (2) FDM output to produce control surface positions. > > None of that requires access to the internal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Altitude Calculation

2002-01-16 Thread Julian Foad
John Wojnaroski wrote: > > In steam.cxx the pressure datum is set to some setting that represents > atmospheric pressure. Okay, so far > But can't find any connection between the two. ... In the present FlightGear code, the "atmospheric pressure" (the_STATIC_inhg) used to calculate the altimete

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone else getting this?

2002-01-16 Thread Julian Foad
No (because I'm using CygWin), but in my Makefile, PKGLIBDIR gets defined via: AM_CXXFLAGS = -DPKGLIBDIR=\"$(pkglibdir)\" and passed to the compiler. Maybe your auto-configure sequence went wrong? It appears that that "-D" option was not passed to the C++ compiler. Any errors/warnings whe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:52, Alex Perry wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 07:19, Christian Mayer wrote: > > What we really need here is for our resident flight control systems > > expert to whip us up a program for generating the control law gains > > based on the config file ... > > It's probabl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 10:13, Andy Ross wrote: > Jon S. Berndt wrote: > > Alex wrote: > > > For starters, can the JSB filters (etc) stuff be used without > > > JSBSim? > > > > The base class of all JSBSim classes - including the FCS classes - is > > FGJSBBase. So, technically, no. > > This w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > support this as an option: > > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ > > Server up and running for a short time so check it out now before I > take it down. Approaching KLAX @ 14,500', then on to KSAN, KPH

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.01.16 15:11]: > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > support this as an option: > > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ > > Server up and running for a short time so check it out now before I > take it down. > > Curt. Now

RE: [Flightgear-devel] dumb CVS question

2002-01-16 Thread Boslough, Mark B
Thanks for catching my error. Unfortunately, I am getting the same result when I type it correctly. So in addition to me being dumb, there is still something else wrong. Mark -Original Message- From: Cameron Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:41 PM To:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with JSBSim under Win32

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> I did not find out why the QNAN ... maybe I should just do a cvs update, > and try JSBSim again. As mentioned YASim works fine ... well, with my > usual 'stuttering' win98 run (< 1 fps) ... Geoff: Can you step back for a minute and answer these questions: 1) How are you building flightgear an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] msvc6 - 0.7.9 release

2002-01-16 Thread Andy Ross
Geoff McLane wrote: > Jon, while I too can not yet 'point the finger' at JSBSim > specifically, I have now had a chance to try my compiled exe using > YASim, and it all went well ... I had a 'reasonable' flight, > 'stuttering' along, but some moments when it came together ... That sounds like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread David Findlay
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:09, you wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:09, you wrote: > > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > > support this as an option: > > > > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ > > > > Server up and running for a short time so check it out now before I >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread David Findlay
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:09, you wrote: > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > support this as an option: > > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ > > Server up and running for a short time so check it out now before I > take it down. Um. All I see is gibberish character

Re: [Flightgear-devel] dumb CVS question

2002-01-16 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boslough, Mark B) [2002.01.16 15:37]: > I'm still trying to come up to speed and if I am going to do any serious > work > I need to be able to do CVS checkouts. I downloaded wincvs and am following > instructions (I think) on the flightgear website. Here's what I get: > > $

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Gene Buckle
Is someone saving these so us poor schmucks behind frothing corporate firewalls can view them too? :) g. On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Cameron Moore wrote: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.01.16 15:11]: > > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > > support thi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Cameron Moore writes: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.01.16 15:11]: > > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > > support this as an option: > > > > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ > > > > Server up and running for a short time so check it out now befo

[Flightgear-devel] dumb CVS question

2002-01-16 Thread Boslough, Mark B
I'm still trying to come up to speed and if I am going to do any serious work I need to be able to do CVS checkouts. I downloaded wincvs and am following instructions (I think) on the flightgear website. Here's what I get: $ cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7.8 login (Lo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.01.16 15:11]: > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > support this as an option: > > http://128.101.142.57:5501/ > > Server up and running for a short time so check it out now before I > take it down. Weight On Whee

[Flightgear-devel] Base package CVS: "read lock failed"

2002-01-16 Thread Julian Foad
Does this indicate a problem on the base package CVS server? ... cvs server: Diffing Aircraft/X15/Panels cvs server: Diffing Aircraft/X15/Panels/Textures cvs server: Diffing Aircraft/c172 cvs server: Diffing Aircraft/c172/Instruments cvs server: failed to create lock directory in repository `/ho

RE: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S. Berndt writes: > Cool. Can you try something less boring. Like the X-15 from 50,000 feet? Then I'd have to keep restarting the sim every 2 minutes. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PRO

RE: [Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Cool. Can you try something less boring. Like the X-15 from 50,000 feet? ;-) Jon > Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now > support this as an option: ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.fligh

[Flightgear-devel] embedded screenshot httpd server

2002-01-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Thanks to Norman Vine's unique combination of genius hackery we now support this as an option: http://128.101.142.57:5501/ Server up and running for a short time so check it out now before I take it down. Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Citi

[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim runscript questions

2002-01-16 Thread Boslough, Mark B
Hi, I can now build and run the latest version of JSBSim. I am very interested in being able to use runscripts for test flights. Does FlightGear have this same capability or are there plans to put it in? Or can FlightGear execute a flight that is stored as a csv file by JSBSim? I am planning

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Christian Mayer
"Jon S. Berndt" wrote: > > > I don't see why moving the FCS out of JSBSim precludes your ability to > > run the thing standalone. You could maintain your own tree > > independant of FlightGear as you do right now (or just keep it in the > > JSB tree "next to" the FDM). Alternatively, you could

RE: [Flightgear-devel] msvc6 - 0.7.9 release

2002-01-16 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine wrote: > >Geoff McLane writes: > >>When running your fgfs.exe the log ends abruptly with >>... >> >> >>* After fgSaveFlight() >>* Before globals->saveInitialState() Aha this is my xtra instrumentation in fg_init() bool fgInitSubsystems( void ) { ...

RE: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> I don't see why moving the FCS out of JSBSim precludes your ability to > run the thing standalone. You could maintain your own tree > independant of FlightGear as you do right now (or just keep it in the > JSB tree "next to" the FDM). Alternatively, you could place it in > SimGear, which is de

Re: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Andy Ross
Jon S. Berndt wrote: > Alex wrote: > > For starters, can the JSB filters (etc) stuff be used without > > JSBSim? > > The base class of all JSBSim classes - including the FCS classes - is > FGJSBBase. So, technically, no. This would be a good feature to look at breaking out of the FDM. At i

RE: [Flightgear-devel] msvc6 - 0.7.9 release

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Norman wrote: > Can you capture the output of this somehow > It just might tell us what is failing for you ! Another thing that might help is if you can run from a console and set JSBSIM_DEBUG=63. This will enable all JSBSim debugging output and might help trace where the error is happening if y

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Eye point angle

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
David Findlay wrote: > JSB: Does JSBSim handle thrust vectoring, or thrusters yet? Thanks, There are perhaps a few lines of code we'd need to add. Otherwise, yes, thrust vectoring is there. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

RE: [Flightgear-devel] altitude hold problem

2002-01-16 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Alex wrote: > For starters, can the JSB filters (etc) stuff be used without JSBSim ? The base class of all JSBSim classes - including the FCS classes - is FGJSBBase. So, technically, no. It would be sort of an alternate autopilot, the way I see it, now. It would be specified in the aircraft conf

RE: [Flightgear-devel] msvc6 - 0.7.9 release

2002-01-16 Thread Norman Vine
Geoff McLane writes: > >Ok, grabbed your latest exe from - >> >> http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/fgfs.exe.gz > >> My binaries are made against the 'then current' fgfsbase CVS files >> Trying to run them against older base files is disaster >Agreed! Do not know what caused you to think I wo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] msvc6 - 0.7.9 release

2002-01-16 Thread Geoff McLane
Ok, grabbed your latest exe from - > >> http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/fgfs.exe.gz > My binaries are made against the 'then current' fgfsbase CVS files > Trying to run them against older base files is disaster Agreed! Do not know what caused you to think I would do this? I do have some

[Flightgear-devel] runway lights

2002-01-16 Thread Roman Grigoriev
Hi guys! Still try to implement runway lights find some section in tileentry.cxx RWY_LIGHTS but i think it's unfinished also when i looked in tile_entry.cxx i found various runway lights initialsations but i don't understand angular_size in setcolor() function and elev_size and azimut_size in setc

[Flightgear-devel] Anyone else getting this?

2002-01-16 Thread David Findlay
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/david/flightgear/FlightGear/src/Main' c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -c main.cxx c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/loc

[Flightgear-devel] Eye point angle

2002-01-16 Thread David Findlay
We need to be able to set the eye angle in the aircraft config files. I need this so I can simulate the low altitude handling of a vehicle I'm designing. Basically I need to be able to set a position leaning back 100 degrees from horizontal for an eyeballs in orientation. JSB: Does JSBSim han