[Flightgear-devel] YASim Heli bug ?

2003-10-16 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hello, MSVC found the problem below at compile time. Anyway, good work Maik. Cheers, -Fred D:\FlightGear\cvs\FlightGear\src\FDM\YASim>cvs diff -u Rotorpart.cpp Index: Rotorpart.cpp === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/sr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect > -- furthermore, the control-position indicators on the HUD are not > moving, suggesting that the flutter isn't coming from there. Very different here. The indicators on the HUD wer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if > you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still > slides backwards and turns -- we'll have to figure out why there are > forces acting on it. To test: > > fgfs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lee's TSR2

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I just commited a bunch of updates to Lee's TSR2 > (--aircraft=tsr2-yasim) > > It's a sweet flyer and nice looker. In the cockpit view you can hit > "P" toggle a 2d panel on that probably isn't like the real thing, but > gives you the info you need t

[Flightgear-devel] Lee's TSR2

2003-10-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I just commited a bunch of updates to Lee's TSR2 (--aircraft=tsr2-yasim) It's a sweet flyer and nice looker. In the cockpit view you can hit "P" toggle a 2d panel on that probably isn't like the real thing, but gives you the info you need to do most IFR flying. Nice canopy animation (Shift-B) an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hud bug or feature?

2003-10-16 Thread nhv
At Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:45:29 - , "Jim Wilson" wrote: > >Can't we just default to the 2D? The ONE aircraft that needs the 3D could >have a configuration parameter to initiate it. > >We don't have to make major changes now, but we should at least be releasing >code that works, even if it is con

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hud bug or feature?

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I see no real solutions for the current code but to leave it like it is > right now. > You didn't read my message. Most of our aircraft don't have HUDs in real life so it is only there for the convenience of the user. For these aircraft it doesn't have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It also loops quite easily ... not saying that was the first thing I > tried. How do you run the collective? How about yaw control? The > rudder seemed to act more like an aerodynamic rudder ... not that I > know anything about how a helo is suppose

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > This isn't happening here. How are you controlling the antitorque > > (rudder)? Maybe the problem is in the control input? > > I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect > -- furthermore, the cont

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Martin Spott writes: > > > O.k., I'll try tomorrow. I'm curious why it didn't get triggered today. > > BTW, for those who never flew a heli: If you chose to stand outside > > then take a position on the left behind the helicopter. This makes the > >

[Flightgear-devel] new FGSimTurbine configs

2003-10-16 Thread David Culp
For those aircraft using FGSimTurbine engines (737, an225?, A320, F5, F16, T38, OV10, t6texan2, fokker50, fokker100) here are some engine configuration files edited to meet the new format. http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/newFGSimTurbines.tar.gz Dave -- David Culp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:15:02 -0400 > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if > >you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still > >slides backwards and turns -- we'll have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > It also loops quite easily ... not saying that was the first thing I > tried. How do you run the collective? How about yaw control? The > rudder seemed to act more like an aerodynamic rudder ... not that I > know anything about how a helo is supposed to fly ... Tr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:15:02 -0400 David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are still some problems we need to work out. For example, if you set the wind to 0 and turn off the engine, the helicopter still slides backwards and turns -- we'll have to figure out why there are forces acting o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > This isn't happening here. How are you controlling the antitorque > (rudder)? Maybe the problem is in the control input? I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect -- furthermore, the control-position indicators on the HUD are not moving, sugges

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: > O.k., I'll try tomorrow. I'm curious why it didn't get triggered today. > BTW, for those who never flew a heli: If you chose to stand outside > then take a position on the left behind the helicopter. This makes the > first steps lots easier, There are still some problem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > Martin Spott writes: > > > O.k., I'll try tomorrow. I'm curious why it didn't get triggered today. > > BTW, for those who never flew a heli: If you chose to stand outside > > then take a position on the left behind the helicopter. This makes the > > first steps lots e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's all give Maik a round of applause for this one. Indeed ! I'd say: "When dreams come true ", Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I can (just barely) fly it -- I'll try hooking up my rudder pedals to > see if that makes it easier. One thing I don't understand is that I > get a lot of small, rapid fishtail oscillations, even when the > controls are perfectly still and the forward a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 16 October 2003 21:27, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:15, Lee Elliott wrote: > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 20:59, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > > > Eeep, was working late > > > > > > http://pwp.netzon.net/~stargoat/Shar/sharskel.ac > > > > > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Needs a tad more lol. Once I get the cockpit right its then onto the > other areas, but cockpit is not coming out very well at the moment. > Doing seperate halves is probably the best way to go with this, any > hints on best techniques for making a go

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Oh, _that_ one is really nice. Although the heli is really very well >> behaved (even with mouse any keyboard control I find it pretty easy to >> fly _and_land_) I'm shure that crash detection should definitely be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:15, Lee Elliott wrote: > On Thursday 16 October 2003 20:59, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > > > > > Eeep, was working late > > > > http://pwp.netzon.net/~stargoat/Shar/sharskel.ac > > > > > > > > I'm afraid that link doesn't work for me:( > > > > > > LeeE > > > Got i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 16 October 2003 20:59, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > > Eeep, was working late > > http://pwp.netzon.net/~stargoat/Shar/sharskel.ac > > > > > I'm afraid that link doesn't work for me:( > > > > LeeE Got it - needs a bit more work methinks;) (all I could see were the four profile

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Jsbsim-devel] moving the engine files

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
David Culp wrote: We're two files away from being able to distribute JSBSim aircraft in a single directory, the engine file and the thruster file. There may be a reason for keeping the engines and thrusters seperate that I don't know about. Here are a couple small code changes that will change

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Johnson
Eeep, was working late http://pwp.netzon.net/~stargoat/Shar/sharskel.ac > > I'm afraid that link doesn't work for me:( > > LeeE > > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightg

[Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
I've been been playing with Maik's most excellent helicopter model, now in CVS: fgfs --aircraft=bo105 I can (just barely) fly it -- I'll try hooking up my rudder pedals to see if that makes it easier. One thing I don't understand is that I get a lot of small, rapid fishtail oscillations, even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Turn coordinator broken

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Erik Hofman wrote: David Luff wrote: The turn coordinator appears to have been broken at some point today. I don't think it was me (hopefully!). It could have been me, I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Ok. I found it, it was me after all. It's fixed in CVS now. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Turn coordinator broken

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
David Luff wrote: The turn coordinator appears to have been broken at some point today. I don't think it was me (hopefully!). It could have been me, I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hud bug or feature?

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Ah yes, didn't think of that. A couple of suggestions: 1). Default to the 2D HUD unless there's a specific aircraft level configuration parameter made to override it (e.g. for the F16 2D panel). 2). Use the default HUD design in 2D HUD mode. The one that currently comes up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Rotor.cpp, NONE,

2003-10-16 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 16 October 2003 18:10, Jim Wilson wrote: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim > > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7544 > > > > > > Added Files: > > > Rotor.cpp Rotor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 16 October 2003 07:20, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 22:19, Lee Elliott wrote: > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 01:21, Andy Ross wrote: > > > Matthew Johnson wrote: > > > >Thought I'd take a stab at this, decided to try and make a 3D > > > > rendition of the Sea Ha

[Flightgear-devel] OS-X binaries / OpenGL includes

2003-10-16 Thread James Turner
First the good news : I have a 'shrink-wrapped', double-clickable FlightGear CVS-as-of-today binary working on the Mac. The bad news - boy is it slow! and big (which may be why it's slow, killing the CPU caches) I need to check what debug info and optimizations are being used, because simgear i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Rotor.cpp, NONE,

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7544 > > > > Added Files: > > Rotor.cpp Rotor.hpp Rotorblade.cpp Rotorblade.hpp > > Rotorpart.cpp Rotorpart

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim Rotor.cpp, NONE,

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7544 > > Added Files: > Rotor.cpp Rotor.hpp Rotorblade.cpp Rotorblade.hpp > Rotorpart.cpp Rotorpart.hpp > Log Message: > Initial revision. > > Maik

[Flightgear-devel] Turn coordinator broken

2003-10-16 Thread David Luff
The turn coordinator appears to have been broken at some point today. I don't think it was me (hopefully!). Cheers - Dave ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Broken initialization on Reset

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt, "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, you can now do something like --timeofday=noon (or morning, or > dusk, or dawn, etc.) which should do something similar to what you are > trying to do with the --start-date-lat= option [...] Yep, I already knew that ;-) but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hud bug or feature?

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Jim Wilson wrote: > > The hud zooms with changes in FOV (zooming the view). Can that be fixed? > > No, if the HUD is added to a 3d cockpit of the F-16 this is the behavior > one would expect. > Ah yes, didn't think of that. A couple of suggestions: 1)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Broken initialization on Reset

2003-10-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin, I believe that Durk Talsma may have been the one who set up these options. He may still be the only one that understands how they work or are supposed to work. FWIW, you can now do something like --timeofday=noon (or morning, or dusk, or dawn, etc.) which should do something similar to w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hud bug or feature?

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: The hud zooms with changes in FOV (zooming the view). Can that be fixed? No, if the HUD is added to a 3d cockpit of the F-16 this is the behavior one would expect. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.

[Flightgear-devel] Hud bug or feature?

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
The hud zooms with changes in FOV (zooming the view). Can that be fixed? Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OS-X binaries for 0.9.3-pre1

2003-10-16 Thread James Turner
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:55 am, Erik Hofman wrote: As a sidenote to all FG developers, it would be great if any part of the base package that normal users might want to expand can handle multiple paths : then I can locate the main base package, which is essentially static for a giv

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OS-X binaries for 0.9.3-pre1

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: As a sidenote to all FG developers, it would be great if any part of the base package that normal users might want to expand can handle multiple paths : then I can locate the main base package, which is essentially static for a given release, inside the the application bundl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OS-X binaries for 0.9.3-pre1

2003-10-16 Thread Tim Kober
Hi James, I know Darrel Wassiler (who's probably lurking here somewhere) has already done similar work, but for my own amusement, I've been working on getting SimGear and FlightGear compiled as a framework (in the case of SimGear) and a bundle (in the case of FlightGear). This translates as 'r

[Flightgear-devel] Broken initialization on Reset

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I'm still experiencing a bug that already lasts for quite some weeks. I run 'fgfs' with '--start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11' which gives me daylight whereever I intend to take off. After crashing the plane I'd like to restart my choosing 'Reset' from the 'File' menu - and I'm always gettin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Version 0.9.3-pre1

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's still time to get new code and bug fixes in before the > official 0.9.3 release so no need to panic (yet.) :-) Could we have a real "feature freeze" for at least one, better two weeks before official release ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user fri

[Flightgear-devel] OS-X binaries for 0.9.3-pre1

2003-10-16 Thread James Turner
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 05:18 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Gene B. pointed me to a "free" windows setup.exe creator so I'm thinking we ought to bundle the windows version up with that (or something similar) for upcoming releases. I know Darrel Wassiler (who's probably lurking here somewhe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making a 3D Sea Harrier FRS.1

2003-10-16 Thread Wolfram Kuss
>just want FlightGear to have its planes :). If you want me to, I can have a look whether there is a Harrier for MSFS/CFS that we could technically use (then we would have to ask for permission). >Plenty of planes to last quite some time (no Spitfire yet for >instance...). I think there is no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] release warning

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to push forward with some "pre" releases. I very much > appreciate the documentation issues. Perhaps in a week or two or > three if we are ready for an official release and the documentation > isn't quite there, we could go ahead anyway, a