Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 21, 2005 01:39 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > I like these title bars -- they combine two necessary elements (title, > exit button) -- and thus safe some vertical space. Hey, will the dialog shade if I double click on the title bar? =P Ampere ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 05:01 pm, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg  [80 kB] > > m. Oh boy! A bo105 with a cloaking device! =P How much chance do you think I have if I want to sneak up on some Romulans? hehe... Ampere ___ Fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lights was: Shadows

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 12:53 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: > You are a genius, forget my previous reply. > We can't lighten pixels from the framebuffer because of the low > precision (8 bits) but we can of course darken them. > Algo (works better at full night) : > 1) render the scene and all non emissive ge

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:28: > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] Here's a fullscreen version with more windows. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui2.jpg [215kB] I like these title bars -- they combine two necessary elements (title, exit button) -- and thus

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Property Manager enumeration of properties

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Tuesday 21 June 2005 03:48: > Is anyone aware of a [simple?] way to print out the property tree once it has > been > populated? gui: "File"/"Save" ? :-) C++: fg_props.cxx: fgSaveFlight(cerr, true); simgear/props/props_io.cxx: writeProperties(cerr, glo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 09:58 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > >fgfs developers aren't only pedantic, but also lazy.  :-) > >   > > Errr ... busy. :-) > > Curt. Or chaotic. =) Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@fligh

[Flightgear-devel] (OT) River Visual Rwy 19 DCA

2005-06-20 Thread Dave Culp
Here's some guy flying the River Visual to Runway 19 at DCA. This is a 19MB avi file. I'll leave this up for a couple days, then remove it to put the hangar back up. http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/dca_visual_19.AVI Dave ___ Fli

[Flightgear-devel] Property Manager enumeration of properties

2005-06-20 Thread Jon Berndt
Is anyone aware of a [simple?] way to print out the property tree once it has been populated? It seems to me that there ought to be a class attribute in the property manager somewhere that is a pointer to a linked list, or a vector, or whatever, that contains the properties, each of which may co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing)fronMSFSinto Flightge

2005-06-20 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Gerard Gerard Robin writes Good, that demonstrate, it is existing a big Hangar "FG underground" How many aircrafts are only existing for the pleasure of one "FG User" ? (on my side about 25) :---((( There is always Dave Culp's hangar for some aircraft that may not be on the FG site al

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help forconvertion(importing)fronMSFSintoFlightge

2005-06-20 Thread Innis Cunningham
Clifford writes Hi Innis I hope you didn't change your mind, I am waiting for your CL604 Thanks again I will convert it so it runs in 9.8 as soon as you get it.It maybe a day or so. What is your hotmail download limit?.If not I will send it to the other address. It will be in winzip forma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Debugging Throttle control in Native-ctrls

2005-06-20 Thread bass pumped
> Throttle should be no different from any other value. There is probalby > internal code clamping this to the range of 0.0 - 1.0 so if your numbers are > coming through garbage and random, you might see this effect. If it was me, > I'd insert some debugging code in src/Networks/native_ctrls.c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
Josh Babcock wrote: > One niggling feature request that I have is that these dialogs [...] > be resizable. Doing resize for the dynamic layout dialogs wouldn't be that hard, really. The existing "drag" code does almost everything that is required, all that would be needed would be code to tell wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Andy Ross wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > >>http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] > > > Very nice. :) > > Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That > close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight > lines and no image label. > > An

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Gerard Robin wrote: > Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 23:28 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a écrit : > >>* Andy Ross -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:14: >> >>>Melchior FRANZ wrote: >>> http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] >> >>[...] >> >>>Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. Tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 23:28 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a écrit : > * Andy Ross -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:14: > > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] > [...] > > Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That > > close button is starting to

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Andy Ross -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:14: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] [...] > Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That > close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight > lines and no image label. P

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] Very nice. :) Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight lines and no image label. You can already modif

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 21:10 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit : > Gerard Robin wrote: > > > Not so strange, we know now the data which are in LFPO.btg have > > differents values than these which are in the official apt.dat; > > we just have to update LFPO.btg. > > How can it be done ? > > By rebuildi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] Very nice. :) Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight lines and no image label. Andy __

[Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB] m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] "Short Reference" Document error?

2005-06-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Sunday 19 June 2005 13:50, Jon Berndt wrote: > This short reference: > > http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf > > shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and "," > (comma) keys. There is no comma on the numeric keypad. This is confusing. IMNSHO the really confusin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lights was: Shadows

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Harald JOHNSEN wrote: > Its quasi free, simple, support a million (fake) spot light ;) I think the shadows are cool, but I think that being able to have spotlights is just awesome. Perhaps we should start thinking about how this will be implemented from the modeler's perspective. I can see the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Josh Babcock -- Monday 20 June 2005 21:41: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > BTW: as a side-effect, menu/dialog bindings should become editable (again), > > too. They are also stored once as ghosts (/sim/menubar/), but are actually > > executed from secret copies. Not that there's a big demand for that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Erik Hofman -- Monday 20 June 2005 18:49: > >>Andy Ross wrote: >> >>>Melchior FRANZ wrote: >>> Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-) >>> >>>Sounds great to me. >> >>I agree. > >

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Debugging Throttle control in Native-ctrls

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 20 June 2005 21:17: > There is probalby internal code clamping this to the range of 0.0 - 1.0 [...] Yes: src/Controls/controls.cxx:1236 m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Martin Spott wrote: > Gerard Robin wrote: > > >>Concerning LFPO: >>the aircraft stand by position (--lat --long) after launching FG >>is not the same than coordinate in apt.dat file , > > > Well, the runway endpoint does _never_ show up in the airports file. > You already hat a look at the s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Debugging Throttle control in Native-ctrls

2005-06-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
bass pumped wrote: Hi all, I'm sending joystick input through Simulink in Matlab to Flightgear using the Native-ctrls structure. I am able to control everything pretty satisfactorily, everything except the throttle... its gone digital on me!!! It fluctuates between a one and a zero in almost

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: Not so strange, we know now the data which are in LFPO.btg have differents values than these which are in the official apt.dat; we just have to update LFPO.btg. How can it be done ? By rebuilding it using TerraGear. Perhaps it's best to wait for the next scenery build? Er

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 20 June 2005 19:19: > (Need some more tests, a minor fix, and cleanup first ...) OK. This is now committed. I'll observe this feature so as to catch problems early. This is the new Nasal error message style: Nasal runtime error: undefined symbol at /input[0]/joyst

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help forconvertion(importing)fronMSFSinto Flightge

2005-06-20 Thread yue xianf
Hi Innis I hope you didn't change your mind, I am waiting for your CL604 Thanks again Clifford From: "yue xianf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions To: flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help forconvertion(importing)fronMSFSint

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 19:50 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit : > Gerard Robin wrote: > > > Your proposal is the last solution, it will be rather crazy to see a > > B747 ready to take off on an extra taxiway on the side of that runway > > with its right wing half on the runway axis > > With UFO no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Wind and Turbulence

2005-06-20 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 19 Jun 2005 15:22, Jon Berndt wrote: > What does FlightGear do in the way of wind and turbulence? I > assume that winds are set in FlightGear in NED coordinates and > that those change slowly? Turbulence is modeled in the FDMs, > but parameters are passed in? FlightGear does not model > t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: Your proposal is the last solution, it will be rather crazy to see a B747 ready to take off on an extra taxiway on the side of that runway with its right wing half on the runway axis With UFO no problem. I will take off with UFO from Paris Orly :-) So you are actuall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 18:56 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit : > Gerard Robin wrote: > > > You probably have the last, did you try on your side about LFPO ? > > I didn't test LFPO yet, but is there any chance this is caused by a > displaced threshold: > > http://www.jetphotos.net/images/l/lfpo_26.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wrong coordinates with airport LICP?

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Roberto Inzerillo wrote: Anyway, do you think is possible that apt.dat is that wrong (550m)? Scenery files for Europe are not precise at all. Are airport locations affected by the same kind of errors? Maybe because of not enough precise source informations? Airport locations are from official

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Monday 20 June 2005 18:49: > Andy Ross wrote: > > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just > > > want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-) > > > > Sounds great to me. > > I agree. Thanks A & E. (Need some more t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wrong coordinates with airport LICP?

2005-06-20 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Hi Steve, > FlightGear uses WGS84 coordinates, but I'd not expect such a big > deviation between WGS84 and any other geodesic system. > > Proving FlightGear's dataset is easy if you have a GPS receiver. Go > stand on some part of the airport that has a reference point in > FlightGear's data fil

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: You probably have the last, did you try on your side about LFPO ? I didn't test LFPO yet, but is there any chance this is caused by a displaced threshold: http://www.jetphotos.net/images/l/lfpo_26.jpg.79618.jpg If so, the runway should be extended by a taxiway that has

[Flightgear-devel] Re: diffs requested for joystick mods

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Campbell -- Monday 20 June 2005 18:19: > Apologies guys for not providing "diff" files for previous suggestions > on joysticks. Oh, sorry. Did I say "diff"? I meant: "unified diff *not* mutilated by the mail user agent". The additional line breaks make the patch unusable. > diff -up contr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shadows

2005-06-20 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Finally, is there a potential for this technique of generating shadow to be used on generating the effects of spot lights (eg. landing light, taxi light, logo light, etc.)? You are a genius, forget my previous reply. We can't lighten pixels from the framebuffer be

[Flightgear-devel] Debugging Throttle control in Native-ctrls

2005-06-20 Thread bass pumped
Hi all, I'm sending joystick input through Simulink in Matlab to Flightgear using the Native-ctrls structure. I am able to control everything pretty satisfactorily, everything except the throttle... its gone digital on me!!! It fluctuates between a one and a zero in almost a random manner when I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-) Sounds great to me. I agree. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-deve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Gerard Robin : > Using taxidraw on LFPO (LFPO.btg file), i can export with TaxiDraw a > file in X-plane format, i get LFPO.dat, which should give the same > coordinates than the ones which the official apt.dat. --> IT IS NOT Just curious : Taxidraw can read .btg files ? That's a big val

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 18:27 +0200, Frederic Bouvier a écrit : > > May be many others Airports have the same error. > > > > Thanks for the answer > > Do you have the scenery that was generated with that apt.dat. > In other words, do you get the latest version of the scenery ? ( if you > already

Re: [Flightgear-devel] carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Adam Dershowitz
According to the C-172P POH I have here: "If conditions require the the continued use of carburetor heat in cruise flight, use the minimum amount of heat necessary to prevent ice from forming and lean the mixture for smoothest engine operation." So, no, not too pedantic at all. -- Adam > From

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Wrong coordinates with airport LICP?

2005-06-20 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 16:29, Roberto Inzerillo wrote: > Hi, > I have an aerial picture of airport LICP (Boccadifalco, Italy) with UTM33N > coordinates [...] as soon as I overlap it to the scenery data in FGSD, I have > it displaced by by approximately 550m. > 550m? That's a big error! FlightGe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Gerard Robin : > > I have found something: > > > Using taxidraw on LFPO (LFPO.btg file), i can export with TaxiDraw a > file in X-plane format, i get LFPO.dat, which should give the same > coordinates than the ones which the official apt.dat. --> IT IS NOT > > that explain the "beside" po

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just > want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-) Sounds great to me. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.

[Flightgear-devel] diffs requested for joystick mods

2005-06-20 Thread Jim Campbell
Apologies guys for not providing "diff" files for previous suggestions on joysticks. Wanted to see if anyone was interested before I did so! Here we go: For Nasal/controls.nas: diff -up controls.nas.orig controls.nas --- controls.nas.orig Sat Jun 18 15:50:59 2005 +++ controls.nasSat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 17:03 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit : > Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 08:51 +, Martin Spott a écrit : > > Gerard Robin wrote: > > > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit : > > > > >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Gerard Robin wrote: > Concerning LFPO: > the aircraft stand by position (--lat --long) after launching FG > is not the same than coordinate in apt.dat file , Well, the runway endpoint does _never_ show up in the airports file. You already hat a look at the spec - did you !? But this is a diffe

[Flightgear-devel] [RFC] panel bindings

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Once upon a time, keyboard and joystick bindings were -- after reading them into the property tree -- stored each as reference to its property address in FGBinding. Then the panel code handling was changed and, because the panel xml structure was only read, scanned and executed, but not stored in t

[Flightgear-devel] Wrong coordinates with airport LICP?

2005-06-20 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Hi, I have an aerial picture of airport LICP (Boccadifalco, Italy) with UTM33N coordinates which could be very usefull for correcting FGFS' LICP airport geometry, whose level of details is relatively poor. I made a .xml FGSD Map file out of it. Now I have a problem because the aerial picture I ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fronMSFSinto Flightge

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 23:05 +0800, Innis Cunningham a écrit : > Hi Clifford > Well you may be in luck.See attached snapshot. > One CL604 that I converted from Chuck Dome's great model. > Back in FG 9.4 but it just needs to be converted for 9.8.No big > deal just use the 737 fdm till you get a rea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing)fronMSFSinto Flightge

2005-06-20 Thread yue xianf
hi Innis: I have seen the picture, that is beautiful, I keep yelling here for your great job. would you send me a discription about how to convert? For the hotmail capacity limitation, it is better send me a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot Clifford From: "Innis Cunningham" <[EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fronMSFSinto Flightge

2005-06-20 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Clifford Well you may be in luck.See attached snapshot. One CL604 that I converted from Chuck Dome's great model. Back in FG 9.4 but it just needs to be converted for 9.8.No big deal just use the 737 fdm till you get a real one built.If you are interested give me a yell and I will send it over.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 08:51 +, Martin Spott a écrit : > Gerard Robin wrote: > > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit : > > >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the > >> runway > > > Oh yes i have tried with taxidraw, it seem only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fronMSFSinto Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 22:07 +0800, yue xianf a écrit : > Hi Gerard: > > I didn't built FlightGear by myself. I found all of the models in MS FS > I think the hard part is the convertion, to comfigure, it should be easier > > Clifford > > > > Well, you are running on the good waygood lu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: docs/getstart/pdf

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Because the manual gets posted online, and because of the huge spam > problem with any email addresses that are posted online, I'd recommend > against putting email addresses into the manual. O.k., that's fine with me - I just wanted to get some feedback before removi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fronMSFSinto Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread yue xianf
Hi Gerard: I didn't built FlightGear by myself. I found all of the models in MS FS I think the hard part is the convertion, to comfigure, it should be easier Clifford From: Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions To: FlightGear developers discussions

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: fgfs developers aren't only pedantic, but also lazy. :-) Errr ... busy. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: docs/getstart/pdf FGShortRef.pdf, 1.8,

2005-06-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: BTW, did we have a consensus on the use of EMAil addresses in The Manual ? Because the manual gets posted online, and because of the huge spam problem with any email addresses that are posted online, I'd recommend against putting email addresses into the manual. Perha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fron MSFSinto Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 20:37 +0800, yue xianf a écrit : > HI Ampere k. > > I need one of Aircraft of Bombardier Challengers( CL600 Cl601 Cl604) > my system is Windows2000. > > Clifford > Well, i hope for you , you will find the right model, i did not worked on that Aircraft. Good Fishing :-

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: docs/getstart/pdf FGShortRef.pdf, 1.8,

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/docs/getstart/pdf > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13049/pdf > Modified Files: > FGShortRef.pdf getstart.pdf > Log Message: > > Forgot an update, build with newer pdfTeX. BTW, did we have a consensus on the use of EMAil addresses in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fron MSFSinto Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread yue xianf
HI Ampere k. I need one of Aircraft of Bombardier Challengers( CL600 Cl601 Cl604) my system is Windows2000. Clifford From: "Ampere K. Hardraade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fron MSFSinto Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread yue xianf
HI Ampere k. I need one of Aircraft of Bombardier Challengers( CL600 Cl601 Cl604) Clifford From: "Ampere K. Hardraade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) f

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: New turbo/supercharger code

2005-06-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ > > * Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 18 June 2005 12:22: > > void Thruster::setThrottle(float throttle) > > { > > _throttle = Math::clamp(throttle, 0, 1); > > } > > > > Will this prevent a negative value for: > > > > > control="THROTTLE"/> > > No, but this will: > > ControlMap.cp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fronMSFS into Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread yue xianf
hi Gerad: Thank you so much, I will try it today. my system is Windows2000 if anything missing I will tell you Thanks again Clifford From: Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: need help for convertion(importing) fron MS FS into Flightgear

2005-06-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 06:19 +0200, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:09:56 +1000, Mostyn wrote in message > < > > > > What then you need to do is manually seperate all of the parts and > > texture them. > > ...first thing to do is read the license; if it isn't GPL, it cannot be >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
> Anyone any opinions > on this point (maybe I am just being too pendantic!!)? I think you are not being too pedantic at all. During real-life winter ops, using partial carb heat on the ground was common practice in my club. (It could also be possible that it is a recommendation in the emphasized

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Wind and Turbulence

2005-06-20 Thread Jon Berndt
> I used this command line: > > fgfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] --aircraft=c172r --turbulence=0.0 > > This set up the winds as I wanted. However, even though "turbulence" was set > to zero, > there was still lots of noise present in the wind velocity coming from > FlightGear. The > wind seemed to vary +/-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Sonntag 19 Juni 2005 22:36 schrieb Ampere K. Hardraade: > On June 19, 2005 04:10 pm, Gerard Robin wrote: > >    I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off  point beside the > > runway > > > >  Thanks > > -- > > Gerard > > For me, it is the LFBO. 14L/32R is a dirt runway, and there is n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Montag 20 Juni 2005 10:51 schrieb Martin Spott: > Gerard Robin wrote: > > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit : > >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the > >> runway > > > > Oh yes i have tried with taxidraw, it seem only operate on

[Flightgear-devel] Re: carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Campbell -- Monday 20 June 2005 11:59: > If the actual aircraft panel is a variable control should the > representation be variable and up to the pilot to use in the > recommended fashion. Anyone any opinions on this point (maybe > I am just being too pendantic!!)? Being pedantic is one of t

[Flightgear-devel] carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Jim Campbell
Hi, On the Cessna 172/150 range of aircraft the carb-heat control is a "progressive" knob as for mixture. The operators recommendation is indeed that only "FULL" or off should be used and it is represented as "bool" in flight gear but is this a correct interpretation. If the actual aircraft pan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] "Short Reference" Document error?

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Gerard Robin wrote: > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 23:27 +0200, Harald JOHNSEN a écrit : >> Now I don't understand. Flightgear uses a key, its the same for all >> contries whatever keyboard you use. What changes >> is the position of this letter on the keyboard, not the key because we >> are not

[Flightgear-devel] Re: keyboards etc

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Campbell -- Monday 20 June 2005 11:07: > To get away from keyboard I am cannabalising "cheap" USB gamepads to > make switch > boxes. My first try is the Logic 3 JP260 which has 10 buttons I can > use. However MACOSX reports "unknown Vendor" although the JP260 reports > correctly a vendor i

[Flightgear-devel] keyboards etc

2005-06-20 Thread Jim Campbell
Hi, Someone once said that Britain and America are two countries only separated by a common language!! To get away from keyboard I am cannabalising "cheap" USB gamepads to make switch boxes. My first try is the Logic 3 JP260 which has 10 buttons I can use. However MACOSX reports "unknown Vendor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Gerard Robin wrote: > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit : >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the >> runway > Oh yes i have tried with taxidraw, it seem only operate on the taxiway, > not the runway. I could not modify the runway st

[Flightgear-devel] Re: New turbo/supercharger code

2005-06-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 18 June 2005 12:22: > void Thruster::setThrottle(float throttle) > { > _throttle = Math::clamp(throttle, 0, 1); > } > > Will this prevent a negative value for: > > control="THROTTLE"/> No, but this will: ControlMap.cpp:83:---

RE: [Flightgear-devel] "Short Reference" Document error?

2005-06-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Berndt > Sent: 20 June 2005 01:33 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] "Short Reference" Document error? > > > So, you think the UK is part o