On June 21, 2005 01:39 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> I like these title bars -- they combine two necessary elements (title,
> exit button) -- and thus safe some vertical space.
Hey, will the dialog shade if I double click on the title bar? =P
Ampere
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On June 20, 2005 05:01 pm, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
>
> m.
Oh boy! A bo105 with a cloaking device! =P
How much chance do you think I have if I want to sneak up on some Romulans?
hehe...
Ampere
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On June 20, 2005 12:53 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote:
> You are a genius, forget my previous reply.
> We can't lighten pixels from the framebuffer because of the low
> precision (8 bits) but we can of course darken them.
> Algo (works better at full night) :
> 1) render the scene and all non emissive ge
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:28:
> http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
Here's a fullscreen version with more windows.
http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui2.jpg [215kB]
I like these title bars -- they combine two necessary elements (title,
exit button) -- and thus
* Jon Berndt -- Tuesday 21 June 2005 03:48:
> Is anyone aware of a [simple?] way to print out the property tree once it has
> been
> populated?
gui:
"File"/"Save" ? :-)
C++:
fg_props.cxx: fgSaveFlight(cerr, true);
simgear/props/props_io.cxx: writeProperties(cerr, glo
On June 20, 2005 09:58 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> >fgfs developers aren't only pedantic, but also lazy. :-)
> >
>
> Errr ... busy. :-)
>
> Curt.
Or chaotic. =)
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Here's some guy flying the River Visual to Runway 19 at DCA. This is a
19MB avi file. I'll leave this up for a couple days, then remove it to
put the hangar back up.
http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/dca_visual_19.AVI
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Is anyone aware of a [simple?] way to print out the property tree once it has
been
populated? It seems to me that there ought to be a class attribute in the
property manager
somewhere that is a pointer to a linked list, or a vector, or whatever, that
contains the
properties, each of which may co
Hi Gerard
Gerard Robin writes
Good, that demonstrate, it is existing a big Hangar "FG underground"
How many aircrafts are only existing for the pleasure of one "FG User" ?
(on my side about 25) :---(((
There is always Dave Culp's hangar for some aircraft that may not be on the
FG site al
Clifford writes
Hi Innis
I hope you didn't change your mind, I am waiting for your CL604
Thanks again
I will convert it so it runs in 9.8 as soon as you get it.It maybe a day or
so.
What is your hotmail download limit?.If not I will send it to the other
address.
It will be in winzip forma
> Throttle should be no different from any other value. There is probalby
> internal code clamping this to the range of 0.0 - 1.0 so if your numbers are
> coming through garbage and random, you might see this effect. If it was me,
> I'd insert some debugging code in src/Networks/native_ctrls.c
Josh Babcock wrote:
> One niggling feature request that I have is that these dialogs [...]
> be resizable.
Doing resize for the dynamic layout dialogs wouldn't be that hard,
really. The existing "drag" code does almost everything that is
required, all that would be needed would be code to tell wh
Andy Ross wrote:
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>
>>http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
>
>
> Very nice. :)
>
> Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That
> close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight
> lines and no image label.
>
> An
Gerard Robin wrote:
> Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 23:28 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a écrit :
>
>>* Andy Ross -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:14:
>>
>>>Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>>>
http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. Tha
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 23:28 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a écrit :
> * Andy Ross -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:14:
> > Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
> [...]
> > Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That
> > close button is starting to
* Andy Ross -- Monday 20 June 2005 23:14:
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
[...]
> Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That
> close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight
> lines and no image label.
P
Andy Ross wrote:
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
Very nice. :)
Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That
close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight
lines and no image label.
You can already modif
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 21:10 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit :
> Gerard Robin wrote:
>
> > Not so strange, we know now the data which are in LFPO.btg have
> > differents values than these which are in the official apt.dat;
> > we just have to update LFPO.btg.
> > How can it be done ?
>
> By rebuildi
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg [80 kB]
Very nice. :)
Someone should start hacking at the puButton class, though. That
close button is starting to look kinda gimped with the cutoff highlight
lines and no image label.
Andy
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On Sunday 19 June 2005 13:50, Jon Berndt wrote:
> This short reference:
>
> http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf
>
> shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and ","
> (comma) keys. There is no comma on the numeric keypad. This is confusing.
IMNSHO the really confusin
Harald JOHNSEN wrote:
> Its quasi free, simple, support a million (fake) spot light ;)
I think the shadows are cool, but I think that being able to have
spotlights is just awesome. Perhaps we should start thinking about how
this will be implemented from the modeler's perspective. I can see the
* Josh Babcock -- Monday 20 June 2005 21:41:
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > BTW: as a side-effect, menu/dialog bindings should become editable (again),
> > too. They are also stored once as ghosts (/sim/menubar/), but are actually
> > executed from secret copies. Not that there's a big demand for that
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Erik Hofman -- Monday 20 June 2005 18:49:
>
>>Andy Ross wrote:
>>
>>>Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>>>
Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just
want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-)
>>>
>>>Sounds great to me.
>>
>>I agree.
>
>
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 20 June 2005 21:17:
> There is probalby internal code clamping this to the range of 0.0 - 1.0 [...]
Yes: src/Controls/controls.cxx:1236
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Martin Spott wrote:
> Gerard Robin wrote:
>
>
>>Concerning LFPO:
>>the aircraft stand by position (--lat --long) after launching FG
>>is not the same than coordinate in apt.dat file ,
>
>
> Well, the runway endpoint does _never_ show up in the airports file.
> You already hat a look at the s
bass pumped wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sending joystick input through Simulink in Matlab to Flightgear
using the Native-ctrls structure. I am able to control everything
pretty satisfactorily, everything except the throttle... its gone
digital on me!!! It fluctuates between a one and a zero in almost
Gerard Robin wrote:
Not so strange, we know now the data which are in LFPO.btg have
differents values than these which are in the official apt.dat;
we just have to update LFPO.btg.
How can it be done ?
By rebuilding it using TerraGear.
Perhaps it's best to wait for the next scenery build?
Er
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 20 June 2005 19:19:
> (Need some more tests, a minor fix, and cleanup first ...)
OK. This is now committed. I'll observe this feature so as to catch
problems early. This is the new Nasal error message style:
Nasal runtime error: undefined symbol
at /input[0]/joyst
Hi Innis
I hope you didn't change your mind, I am waiting for your CL604
Thanks again
Clifford
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To: flightgear-devel@flightgear.org
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help
forconvertion(importing)fronMSFSint
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 19:50 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit :
> Gerard Robin wrote:
>
> > Your proposal is the last solution, it will be rather crazy to see a
> > B747 ready to take off on an extra taxiway on the side of that runway
> > with its right wing half on the runway axis
> > With UFO no
On Sunday 19 Jun 2005 15:22, Jon Berndt wrote:
> What does FlightGear do in the way of wind and turbulence? I
> assume that winds are set in FlightGear in NED coordinates and
> that those change slowly? Turbulence is modeled in the FDMs,
> but parameters are passed in? FlightGear does not model
> t
Gerard Robin wrote:
Your proposal is the last solution, it will be rather crazy to see a
B747 ready to take off on an extra taxiway on the side of that runway
with its right wing half on the runway axis
With UFO no problem. I will take off with UFO from Paris Orly :-)
So you are actuall
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 18:56 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit :
> Gerard Robin wrote:
>
> > You probably have the last, did you try on your side about LFPO ?
>
> I didn't test LFPO yet, but is there any chance this is caused by a
> displaced threshold:
>
> http://www.jetphotos.net/images/l/lfpo_26.
Roberto Inzerillo wrote:
Anyway, do you think is possible that apt.dat is that wrong (550m)? Scenery
files for Europe are not precise at all. Are airport locations affected by
the same kind of errors? Maybe because of not enough precise source
informations?
Airport locations are from official
* Erik Hofman -- Monday 20 June 2005 18:49:
> Andy Ross wrote:
> > Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > > Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just
> > > want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-)
> >
> > Sounds great to me.
>
> I agree.
Thanks A & E. (Need some more t
Hi Steve,
> FlightGear uses WGS84 coordinates, but I'd not expect such a big
> deviation between WGS84 and any other geodesic system.
>
> Proving FlightGear's dataset is easy if you have a GPS receiver. Go
> stand on some part of the airport that has a reference point in
> FlightGear's data fil
Gerard Robin wrote:
You probably have the last, did you try on your side about LFPO ?
I didn't test LFPO yet, but is there any chance this is caused by a
displaced threshold:
http://www.jetphotos.net/images/l/lfpo_26.jpg.79618.jpg
If so, the runway should be extended by a taxiway that has
* Jim Campbell -- Monday 20 June 2005 18:19:
> Apologies guys for not providing "diff" files for previous suggestions
> on joysticks.
Oh, sorry. Did I say "diff"? I meant: "unified diff *not* mutilated by the
mail user agent". The additional line breaks make the patch unusable.
> diff -up contr
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
Finally, is there a potential for this technique of generating shadow to be
used on generating the effects of spot lights (eg. landing light, taxi light,
logo light, etc.)?
You are a genius, forget my previous reply.
We can't lighten pixels from the framebuffer be
Hi all,
I'm sending joystick input through Simulink in Matlab to Flightgear
using the Native-ctrls structure. I am able to control everything
pretty satisfactorily, everything except the throttle... its gone
digital on me!!! It fluctuates between a one and a zero in almost a
random manner when I
Andy Ross wrote:
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just
want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-)
Sounds great to me.
I agree.
Erik
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Quoting Gerard Robin :
> Using taxidraw on LFPO (LFPO.btg file), i can export with TaxiDraw a
> file in X-plane format, i get LFPO.dat, which should give the same
> coordinates than the ones which the official apt.dat. --> IT IS NOT
Just curious : Taxidraw can read .btg files ? That's a big val
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 18:27 +0200, Frederic Bouvier a écrit :
> > May be many others Airports have the same error.
> >
> > Thanks for the answer
>
> Do you have the scenery that was generated with that apt.dat.
> In other words, do you get the latest version of the scenery ? ( if you
> already
According to the C-172P POH I have here:
"If conditions require the the continued use of carburetor heat in cruise
flight, use the minimum amount of heat necessary to prevent ice from forming
and lean the mixture for smoothest engine operation."
So, no, not too pedantic at all.
-- Adam
> From
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 16:29, Roberto Inzerillo wrote:
> Hi,
> I have an aerial picture of airport LICP (Boccadifalco, Italy) with UTM33N
> coordinates [...] as soon as I overlap it to the scenery data in FGSD, I have
> it displaced by by approximately 550m.
>
550m? That's a big error!
FlightGe
Quoting Gerard Robin :
>
> I have found something:
>
>
> Using taxidraw on LFPO (LFPO.btg file), i can export with TaxiDraw a
> file in X-plane format, i get LFPO.dat, which should give the same
> coordinates than the ones which the official apt.dat. --> IT IS NOT
>
> that explain the "beside" po
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> Actually, I have already changed it, and would like to commit. Just
> want to make some more tests. Worked well so far. :-)
Sounds great to me.
Andy
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Apologies guys for not providing "diff" files for previous suggestions
on joysticks.
Wanted to see if anyone was interested before I did so!
Here we go:
For Nasal/controls.nas:
diff -up controls.nas.orig controls.nas
--- controls.nas.orig Sat Jun 18 15:50:59 2005
+++ controls.nasSat
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 17:03 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit :
> Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 08:51 +, Martin Spott a écrit :
> > Gerard Robin wrote:
> > > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit :
> >
> > >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside
Gerard Robin wrote:
> Concerning LFPO:
> the aircraft stand by position (--lat --long) after launching FG
> is not the same than coordinate in apt.dat file ,
Well, the runway endpoint does _never_ show up in the airports file.
You already hat a look at the spec - did you !?
But this is a diffe
Once upon a time, keyboard and joystick bindings were -- after reading them
into the property tree -- stored each as reference to its property address
in FGBinding. Then the panel code handling was changed and, because the panel
xml structure was only read, scanned and executed, but not stored in t
Hi,
I have an aerial picture of airport LICP (Boccadifalco, Italy) with UTM33N
coordinates which could be very usefull for correcting FGFS' LICP airport
geometry, whose level of details is relatively poor. I made a .xml FGSD Map
file out of it.
Now I have a problem because the aerial picture I ha
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 23:05 +0800, Innis Cunningham a écrit :
> Hi Clifford
> Well you may be in luck.See attached snapshot.
> One CL604 that I converted from Chuck Dome's great model.
> Back in FG 9.4 but it just needs to be converted for 9.8.No big
> deal just use the 737 fdm till you get a rea
hi Innis:
I have seen the picture, that is beautiful, I keep yelling here for your
great job.
would you send me a discription about how to convert? For the hotmail
capacity limitation,
it is better send me a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks a lot
Clifford
From: "Innis Cunningham" <[EMAIL
Hi Clifford
Well you may be in luck.See attached snapshot.
One CL604 that I converted from Chuck Dome's great model.
Back in FG 9.4 but it just needs to be converted for 9.8.No big
deal just use the 737 fdm till you get a real one built.If you are
interested give me a yell and I will send it over.
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 08:51 +, Martin Spott a écrit :
> Gerard Robin wrote:
> > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit :
>
> >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the
> >> runway
>
> > Oh yes i have tried with taxidraw, it seem only
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 22:07 +0800, yue xianf a écrit :
> Hi Gerard:
>
> I didn't built FlightGear by myself. I found all of the models in MS FS
> I think the hard part is the convertion, to comfigure, it should be easier
>
> Clifford
>
>
>
>
Well, you are running on the good waygood lu
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote:
> Because the manual gets posted online, and because of the huge spam
> problem with any email addresses that are posted online, I'd recommend
> against putting email addresses into the manual.
O.k., that's fine with me - I just wanted to get some feedback before
removi
Hi Gerard:
I didn't built FlightGear by myself. I found all of the models in MS FS
I think the hard part is the convertion, to comfigure, it should be easier
Clifford
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Melchior FRANZ wrote:
fgfs developers aren't only pedantic, but also lazy. :-)
Errr ... busy. :-)
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Unique text:2f585eeea02e
Martin Spott wrote:
BTW, did we have a consensus on the use of EMAil addresses in The
Manual ?
Because the manual gets posted online, and because of the huge spam
problem with any email addresses that are posted online, I'd recommend
against putting email addresses into the manual. Perha
Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 20:37 +0800, yue xianf a écrit :
> HI Ampere k.
>
> I need one of Aircraft of Bombardier Challengers( CL600 Cl601 Cl604)
> my system is Windows2000.
>
> Clifford
>
Well, i hope for you , you will find the right model, i did not
worked on that Aircraft.
Good Fishing :-
Martin Spott wrote:
> Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/docs/getstart/pdf
> In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13049/pdf
> Modified Files:
> FGShortRef.pdf getstart.pdf
> Log Message:
>
> Forgot an update, build with newer pdfTeX.
BTW, did we have a consensus on the use of EMAil addresses in
HI Ampere k.
I need one of Aircraft of Bombardier Challengers( CL600 Cl601 Cl604)
my system is Windows2000.
Clifford
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HI Ampere k.
I need one of Aircraft of Bombardier Challengers( CL600 Cl601 Cl604)
Clifford
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Melchior FRANZ
>
> * Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 18 June 2005 12:22:
> > void Thruster::setThrottle(float throttle)
> > {
> > _throttle = Math::clamp(throttle, 0, 1);
> > }
> >
> > Will this prevent a negative value for:
> >
> > > control="THROTTLE"/>
>
> No, but this will:
>
> ControlMap.cp
hi Gerad:
Thank you so much, I will try it today. my system is Windows2000 if anything
missing I will tell you
Thanks again
Clifford
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Le lundi 20 juin 2005 à 06:19 +0200, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:09:56 +1000, Mostyn wrote in message
> <
> >
> > What then you need to do is manually seperate all of the parts and
> > texture them.
>
> ...first thing to do is read the license; if it isn't GPL, it cannot be
>
> Anyone any opinions
> on this point (maybe I am just being too pendantic!!)?
I think you are not being too pedantic at all. During
real-life winter ops, using partial carb heat on the ground
was common practice in my club. (It could also be possible
that it is a recommendation in the emphasized
> I used this command line:
>
> fgfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] --aircraft=c172r --turbulence=0.0
>
> This set up the winds as I wanted. However, even though "turbulence" was set
> to zero,
> there was still lots of noise present in the wind velocity coming from
> FlightGear. The
> wind seemed to vary +/-
Am Sonntag 19 Juni 2005 22:36 schrieb Ampere K. Hardraade:
> On June 19, 2005 04:10 pm, Gerard Robin wrote:
> > I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the
> > runway
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Gerard
>
> For me, it is the LFBO. 14L/32R is a dirt runway, and there is n
Am Montag 20 Juni 2005 10:51 schrieb Martin Spott:
> Gerard Robin wrote:
> > Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit :
> >>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the
> >> runway
> >
> > Oh yes i have tried with taxidraw, it seem only operate on
* Jim Campbell -- Monday 20 June 2005 11:59:
> If the actual aircraft panel is a variable control should the
> representation be variable and up to the pilot to use in the
> recommended fashion. Anyone any opinions on this point (maybe
> I am just being too pendantic!!)?
Being pedantic is one of t
Hi,
On the Cessna 172/150 range of aircraft the carb-heat control is a
"progressive"
knob as for mixture. The operators recommendation is indeed that only
"FULL" or
off should be used and it is represented as "bool" in flight gear but
is this a correct
interpretation. If the actual aircraft pan
Gerard Robin wrote:
> Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 23:27 +0200, Harald JOHNSEN a écrit :
>> Now I don't understand. Flightgear uses a key, its the same for all
>> contries whatever keyboard you use. What changes
>> is the position of this letter on the keyboard, not the key because we
>> are not
* Jim Campbell -- Monday 20 June 2005 11:07:
> To get away from keyboard I am cannabalising "cheap" USB gamepads to
> make switch
> boxes. My first try is the Logic 3 JP260 which has 10 buttons I can
> use. However MACOSX reports "unknown Vendor" although the JP260 reports
> correctly a vendor i
Hi,
Someone once said that Britain and America are two countries only
separated by a common language!!
To get away from keyboard I am cannabalising "cheap" USB gamepads to
make switch
boxes. My first try is the Logic 3 JP260 which has 10 buttons I can
use. However MACOSX reports "unknown Vendor
Gerard Robin wrote:
> Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 22:10 +0200, Gerard Robin a écrit :
>>I have the same request LFPO is wrong: --> take off point beside the
>> runway
> Oh yes i have tried with taxidraw, it seem only operate on the taxiway,
> not the runway. I could not modify the runway st
* Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 18 June 2005 12:22:
> void Thruster::setThrottle(float throttle)
> {
> _throttle = Math::clamp(throttle, 0, 1);
> }
>
> Will this prevent a negative value for:
>
> control="THROTTLE"/>
No, but this will:
ControlMap.cpp:83:---
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> Sent: 20 June 2005 01:33
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] "Short Reference" Document error?
>
> > So, you think the UK is part o
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