Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little "emergency" encountered inside FlightGear

2005-09-28 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On September 28, 2005 04:02 am, Erik Hofman wrote: > Looking at a patch commit to simgear/scene/model at Sept. 25th I see > there was a patch to set the factor to 0.0 by default which doesn't seem > such a great idea after all. > > I've backed out that patch again, could you test it for me? > > Eri

Re: [Flightgear-devel] macflightgear info

2005-09-28 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: Arthur Wiebe > > There are some other mac fgfs guys on this list. I figured I'd let everyone > know exactly what the MacOSX port of FGFS is up to. > > http://artooro.blogspot.com/2005/09/mac-flightgear-project-report.html > > (NOTE:) > The Flight starter (fgrun equiv) is referred to as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
I hope, this description is not to long, but I think it is very important to have a working controller code First the test results, at the end you will find the test decription for the test controller and a little nasal script for logging. o Behaviour with delta_u_n = 0 and an input jump func

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 21:03, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: The original problem is, when there is an input change from 0 to u_max/kp, the output value is zero. This is wrong. It has to be u_max. The fix from Erik was also my first approach. But it does not solve the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff McBride
See below... On 9/28/05, Roy Vegard Ovesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 28 September 2005 21:03, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: > > The original problem is, when there is an input change from 0 to > > u_max/kp, the output value is zero. This is wrong. It has to be u_max. > > The fix from Er

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2 Questions: Terrain data? Flight Sim 200x aircraft?

2005-09-28 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: "Mike Kopack" > > Hey gang, > > > Second, while investigating some stuff for another project, I ran across a > reference where somebody used a MS Flight Sim aircraft model for a Predator > UAV and used it on Flight Gear. Unfortunately, it didn't explain how they > did it. How would I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-09-28 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: Andy Ross > > Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: > > In the package there is a GPL-license. > > If this is enough, then everything is OK regarding the panel. > > Unfortunately, due to clear evidence of (minor, admittedly) copyright > violation, this is not enough. The issue isn't license compatibi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 21:03, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: > The original problem is, when there is an input change from 0 to > u_max/kp, the output value is zero. This is wrong. It has to be u_max. > The fix from Erik was also my first approach. But it does not solve the > problem. Under some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-09-28 Thread Andy Ross
Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: > In the package there is a GPL-license. > If this is enough, then everything is OK regarding the panel. Unfortunately, due to clear evidence of (minor, admittedly) copyright violation, this is not enough. The issue isn't license compatibility, it is copyright ownership.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Thank you for the tips I understand your concerns. I took the panel from the package b707-436v2.zip from John Carty. In the package there is a GPL-license. If this is enough, then everything is OK regarding the panel. I wrote John a mail and told him, what Iam going to do, but I got no answer. If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: It would be great, if you also test the code. This PID code has been working well (and untouched for quite some time now.) What bug/problem are we trying to fix here? Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
It would be great, if you also test the code. Hans-Georg Jeff McBride wrote: Ahh, yes. I see your point. Since the change in output is based on change in error (not current error), if the amount of output shift is altered but the last error (ep_n_1) is not the two will effectively become out o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
The original problem is, when there is an input change from 0 to u_max/kp, the output value is zero. This is wrong. It has to be u_max. The fix from Erik was also my first approach. But it does not solve the problem. Under some circumstances the controller stays in saturation for ever. I th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-09-28 Thread Andy Ross
Karsten Krispin wrote: > roy.vegard.ovesen wrote: > > Those icons at the top, just right of the menu bar. I'm pretty sure > > that they come from MSFS, and thus are probably under a license > > uncompatible with GPL. I suggest that Hans-Georg simply remove them, > > there probably are no such butto

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for the 707

2005-09-28 Thread Karsten Krispin
Am Mittwoch, 28. September 2005 08:46 schrieb roy.vegard.ovesen: > Those icons at the top, just right of the menu bar. I'm pretty sure that > they come from MSFS, and thus are probably under a license uncompatible > with GPL. I suggest that Hans-Georg simply remove them, there probably are > no suc

[Flightgear-devel] irc.flightgear.org down: alternative server

2005-09-28 Thread George Patterson
Hi all, irc.flightgear.org is currently down (the machine is there but the irc service isn't) so I have set up a channel #flightgear on freenode.net to use untill the offical server comes back up. George Patterson ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Fli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little "emergency" encountered inside FlightGear

2005-09-28 Thread Jon Stockill
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: As a side note, I made it safely back to the airport, braked, and taxied to the tarmac. Those who have had trouble braking on large jets may want to hold Shift+B on touch down. Provided that Caps-Lock is off, holding Shift+B will toggle the brake between on and off

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for the 707

2005-09-28 Thread roy.vegard.ovesen
På 28.09.2005 10:05 CEST skrev Erik Hofman >Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I adapted the 2D-panel of a 707 from George Carty for FlightGear and >> merged it with the 3D-Model of Innis Cunningham. >> >> Here are the results: >> >> http://wunderhg.homepage.t-online.de/707-KSFO.jpg > >Ow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for the 707

2005-09-28 Thread Erik Hofman
Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Hi all, I adapted the 2D-panel of a 707 from George Carty for FlightGear and merged it with the 3D-Model of Innis Cunningham. Here are the results: http://wunderhg.homepage.t-online.de/707-KSFO.jpg Ow, nice! Is it ready to be included in the base package? Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little "emergency" encountered inside FlightGear

2005-09-28 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: As you can see, there is a problem with the main landing gears on the 747. The bug appears again after I restarted FlightGear. I have never seen this happening until I updated my CVS version of SimGear and FlightGear yesterday. I haven't touched anything in the da

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little "emergency" encountered inside FlightGear

2005-09-28 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, I hacked the code not to show those dialogs any more... could supply a "patch" if someone wants it :-) Please? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman