Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Christian Mayer
Gene Buckle wrote: > > > Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > > > > > As long as the royalties are paid in a timely manner, I don't care. The cost > > > > > is .4 cents per use, rounded down on each one to the nearest penny. > > > > > > > > > > [IOW, free ;-)] > > > > > > > > I will mention, though, th

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S. Berndt writes: > > > Twins == Full time diaper changer? > > Almost, because there are several more steps than merely changing the diaper > with newborn boys because ... well, I'll forego the explanation. Suffice it > to say that it takes a good ten minutes to complete the entire task. Ca

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> > I will mention, though, that you're infringing on my US Patent > > #09860987, covering the use of bitmapped images for representing the > > initiation of sequences of machine-encoded instructions stored on a > > personal computing device. Please feel free to contact my law firm to > > make ap

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Gene Buckle writes: > > > As long as the royalties are paid in a timely manner, I don't care. The cost > > > is .4 cents per use, rounded down on each one to the nearest penny. > > > > > > [IOW, free ;-)] > > > > I will mention, though, that you're infringing on my US Patent > > #09860987, c

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Gene Buckle
> > As long as the royalties are paid in a timely manner, I don't care. The cost > > is .4 cents per use, rounded down on each one to the nearest penny. > > > > [IOW, free ;-)] > > I will mention, though, that you're infringing on my US Patent > #09860987, covering the use of bitmapped image

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread David Megginson
Jon S. Berndt writes: > > Jon Berndt is the artist, but I can't imagine that he'd have a problem > > with us distributing it. > > As long as the royalties are paid in a timely manner, I don't care. The cost > is .4 cents per use, rounded down on each one to the nearest penny. > > [IOW, f

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> Jon Berndt is the artist, but I can't imagine that he'd have a problem > with us distributing it. As long as the royalties are paid in a timely manner, I don't care. The cost is .4 cents per use, rounded down on each one to the nearest penny. [IOW, free ;-)] Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread David Megginson
David Findlay writes: > > Sorry a little slow on reading the list lately. This is one I've been > > using for quite a while as a desktop icon...its just something hacked out > > of the webpage logo: > > > > http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/fgfs-jims-icon.png > > I'm not one to criticise Da

AW: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-15 Thread Michael Basler
I like the new icon. As windows can't use png files directly as icons, I converted it into a format Windows can use: http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/fgfs-jims-icon.ico Have fun! Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-14 Thread David Findlay
> Sorry a little slow on reading the list lately. This is one I've been > using for quite a while as a desktop icon...its just something hacked out > of the webpage logo: > > http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/fgfs-jims-icon.png I'm not one to criticise David Megginson's artwork, I think this one is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: > Yeah that's what i meant to say...i hacked it from the logo at the top of > the flightgear.org page. As far as freely redistributable you'll have to > talk to the webmaster ;-) Jon Berndt is the artist, but I can't imagine that he'd have a problem with us distributing it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-14 Thread Jim Wilson
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > David Megginson writes: > > Jim Wilson writes: > > > > > Sorry a little slow on reading the list lately. This is one I've > > > been using for quite a while as a desktop icon...its just something > > > hacked out of the webpage logo: > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > Sorry a little slow on reading the list lately. This is one I've > > been using for quite a while as a desktop icon...its just something > > hacked out of the webpage logo: > > > > http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/fgfs-jims-icon.png > > Tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-14 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > Sorry a little slow on reading the list lately. This is one I've > been using for quite a while as a desktop icon...its just something > hacked out of the webpage logo: > > http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/fgfs-jims-icon.png That's a nice icon. What logo is it hacked o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-14 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Graphic Artists > --- > > We also need a couple of good icons, one for the application and one > for its data files. I made a crappy one depicting a 3/4 view of a > inexplicably greenish Cessna 310 in a steep turn, and will use it if > no

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Norman Vine
Alex Perry writes: > >SO, ANY PROGRAM THAT NEEDS TO BE PORTABLE TO ALL VERSIONS OF >WINDOWS (that are capable of 3D support) NEEDS TO ALLOW FOR THE >FACT THAT IMPORTANT FILES MAY APPEAR TO HAVE 8.3 NAME LIMITATIONS. for those REALLY interested a definitive document http://msdn.microsoft.com/libra

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Christian Mayer
throttle1000 wrote: > > The DOS is dead after 95. I know because I had > lot of problems since the WIN32 dos in WIN95 was > not any more a real dos. It was a WIN32 emulating dos. > > The file name header was no more kept as it was in the > real DOS. I kept some secret bytes in the file header >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread throttle1000
The DOS is dead after 95. I know because I had lot of problems since the WIN32 dos in WIN95 was not any more a real dos. It was a WIN32 emulating dos. The file name header was no more kept as it was in the real DOS. I kept some secret bytes in the file header space on the real DOS .. and it worke

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Alex Perry
> Not true! I dispute that. > All windows should be equal after 95. Yes, they should. No, they aren't. > They all use the same WIN32 core. No, they don't. > And they even > run the same exe files! Yes, they do, but I don't see what that has to do with the filesystem. > For a programmer the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Christian Mayer
throttle1000 wrote: > > Not true! All windows should be equal after 95. > They all use the same WIN32 core. And they even > run the same exe files! > > For a programmer there should only be one system: > WIN32 (95, 98, 2000, NT etc) > > Additional to NT etc. in 95/98/etc there is a dos window >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread throttle1000
Not true! All windows should be equal after 95. They all use the same WIN32 core. And they even run the same exe files! For a programmer there should only be one system: WIN32 (95, 98, 2000, NT etc) Additional to NT etc. in 95/98/etc there is a dos window and the dos is simulated by the WIN32 co

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Norman Vine
Jon S. Berndt writes: > >Norman wrote: > >> Please stick with 8.3 or else Win9X development will be 'hampered' >> in a way that would be similar to what Unix development would >> experience if we were to allow spaces in filenames. It seems to be a non-issue in W2KPro. Indeed but ... Win9X is

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Norman wrote: > Please stick with 8.3 or else Win9X development will be 'hampered' > in a way that would be similar to what Unix development would > experience if we were to allow spaces in filenames. I'll stay out of this one except to say that I don't stick with the 8.3 rule in filenames and I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > It is the CLI that has potential problems i.e > > C:\tmp>dir jnk* > > Volume in drive C is NHV_233 > Volume Serial Number is 000F- > Directory of C:\tmp > > JNK~1MEG10 01-05-02 10:53a jnk.megginson > JNK~2MEG10 01-05-02

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > >Erik Hofman writes: > > > As far as I know, only dos (and Windows3.1) do have this >restriction. > > OS/2, MacOS, BeOS, all Unices and Win9x+ support more than >3 characters > > in the extension. > >I know that VFAT and FAT32 allow extensions greater than three chars,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: > This is exactly the reason to stay with 8.3 file names > i.e. the paramount rule in practical user interface design > THE USER DOES NOT HAVE TO GUESS -- EVER !! > > Supporting the Point and Click Interface of Win9X is not enough > the underlying file system is DOS no matter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: > Erik Hofman writes: > > > As far as I know, only dos (and Windows3.1) do have this restriction. > > OS/2, MacOS, BeOS, all Unices and Win9x+ support more than 3 characters > > in the extension. > > I know that VFAT and FAT32 allow extensions greater than three chars

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: > As far as I know, only dos (and Windows3.1) do have this restriction. > OS/2, MacOS, BeOS, all Unices and Win9x+ support more than 3 characters > in the extension. I know that VFAT and FAT32 allow extensions greater than three chars, but does the desktop manager allow l

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Norman Vine
Christian Mayer writes: > >David Megginson wrote: >> >> Norman Vine writes: >> >> > The general rule of thumb for portable applications is to use >> > the lowest common denominator or in the case filenames >> > >> > use the 8.3 rule >> >> The question is whether any operating systems that h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Christian Mayer
David Megginson wrote: > > Norman Vine writes: > > > The general rule of thumb for portable applications is to use > > the lowest common denominator or in the case filenames > > > > use the 8.3 rule > > > > max 8 letters for a file or directory name > > max 3 letters for a file extension

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-05 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: > Norman Vine writes: > > > The general rule of thumb for portable applications is to use > > the lowest common denominator or in the case filenames > > > > use the 8.3 rule > > > > max 8 letters for a file or directory name > > max 3 letters for a file extension

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > >Norman Vine writes: > > > The general rule of thumb for portable applications is to use > > the lowest common denominator or in the case filenames > > > > use the 8.3 rule > > > > max 8 letters for a file or directory name > > max 3 letters for a file extension > > >

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > The general rule of thumb for portable applications is to use > the lowest common denominator or in the case filenames > > use the 8.3 rule > > max 8 letters for a file or directory name > max 3 letters for a file extension > > do not use case to differentiate n

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > >Erik Hofman writes: > > > I think the idea is to select the icon, and the start FlightGear from > > there I guess? > > Is there actually *any* reasun not to use extentions other than 3 > > characters, e.g. like .fgfs ? > >I don't know. There's none under the Linux des

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: > I think the idea is to select the icon, and the start FlightGear from > there I guess? > Is there actually *any* reasun not to use extentions other than 3 > characters, e.g. like .fgfs ? I don't know. There's none under the Linux desktop managers I've tried -- does W

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: > I think it's time to think of a TLE for FlightGear situation files, to > make it easy to associate them with FlightGear in a GUI environment. > We can rule out "xml" or "sav", since they're too common. Here are > some unimaginative suggestions: I think the idea is to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: > Graphic Artists > --- > > We also need a couple of good icons, one for the application and one > for its data files. I made a crappy one depicting a 3/4 view of a > inexplicably greenish Cessna 310 in a steep turn, and will use it if > no one develops anyth

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear TLE

2002-01-04 Thread David Megginson
I think it's time to think of a TLE for FlightGear situation files, to make it easy to associate them with FlightGear in a GUI environment. We can rule out "xml" or "sav", since they're too common. Here are some unimaginative suggestions: fsf - "Flightgear Save File" fgf - "FlightGear File" fgd