Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Default startup aircraft

2002-12-12 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > > Dave Perry writes: > > > 2. The adverse aileron yaw is too much at modrate speeds. In fact, > >since these changes, the wing leveler auto pilot will cause ever > >increasing aileron oscillations leading to a crash with the > >c172p. > > I'll look into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Default startup aircraft

2002-12-12 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > I've never tried this in a real C172, but I can see that for a real > pilot, pushing forward on the yoke to hold the nose down after > applying flaps could become an almost unconcious act. Yes, after the first couple of approaches, the newly grey hair on your instruct

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Default startup aircraft

2002-12-12 Thread David Megginson
Dave Perry writes: > Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model: > 1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't > change the elevator trim a lot, the plane actually stalls. If I recall > correctly, the Piper Tri-Pacer had a slight pitch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Default startup aircraft

2002-12-11 Thread Luke Scharf
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 21:24, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Dave Perry writes: > > I like the c172p-3d 3d model and 3d cockpit a lot. > > > > Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model: > > 1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't > > change the ele

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Default startup aircraft

2002-12-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Dave Perry writes: > I like the c172p-3d 3d model and 3d cockpit a lot. > > Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model: > 1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't > change the elevator trim a lot, the plane actually stalls. If I recall >

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Default startup aircraft

2002-12-11 Thread Dave Perry
I like the c172p-3d 3d model and 3d cockpit a lot. Three comments/concerns for the recent changes to the flight model: 1. The nose pitch-up when adding flaps seems extreem. If I don't change the elevator trim a lot, the plane actually stalls. If I recall correctly, the Piper Tri-Pacer h