[Flightgear-devel] Solution: nose-heavy YASim aircraft

2003-03-26 Thread David Megginson
I noticed that all of the YASim models tended to nose down with neutral elevator. I assumed that it was a WB problem and tried shifting weight all over the place in the J3 cub (and even moved the wings around), but nothing fixed the problem. In the end, I figured out that the YASim solver simply

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solution: nose-heavy YASim aircraft

2003-03-26 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: I noticed that all of the YASim models tended to nose down with neutral elevator. I assumed that it was a WB problem and tried shifting weight all over the place in the J3 cub (and even moved the wings around), but nothing fixed the problem. Right. The solver just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solution: nose-heavy YASim aircraft

2003-03-26 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: This came up a while back. Apparently I didn't put it in the docs. A slightly terser explanation is this: YASim trims the aircraft (with tail incidence, not control input) so that the elevator value is exactly zero in the specified cruise configuration. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solution: nose-heavy YASim aircraft

2003-03-26 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: That was not happening, however; instead, with 0 elevator and 0 elevator trim, all aircraft would continue pitching downwards and accelerating past Vne. Setting the elevator property solved the problem. I don't know why it wasn't trimming for 0 elevator/elevator trim.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solution: nose-heavy YASim aircraft

2003-03-26 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: And it *was* trimming for zero /controls/elevator{-trim}. That's the whole point: It's not a bug in the solver. The pitching moment* at the specified cruise conditions is very near zero; that's what the solver does. The problem is that a real aircraft under those