Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread David Megginson
David Megginson writes: > > To the logical side: as long as the plane start *on* the runway it's IMO > > very unrealistical that the engine isn't running. > > I've thought about that as well (though FLY! does the same thing). I am convinced that we're best off starting with the engines id

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: > > If Curt and the rest of you hate this change, I'm happy to roll it > back out, but I've been hearing some very strong arguments against > putting 0.7.9 out with engines off by default and no arguments in > favour. Since this is a config-file change rather than a change

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > I am convinced that we're best off starting with the engines idling > rather than off, since our default start is always on a runway (even > if you specify a different airport). No C++ code changes are > necessary, other than a small bug-fix to JSBSim.cxx; I've just chan

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread D Luff
Curtis L. Olson writes: > David Megginson writes: > > I am convinced that we're best off starting with the engines idling > > rather than off, since our default start is always on a runway (even > > if you specify a different airport). No C++ code changes are > > necessary, other than a small bu

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I am convinced that we're best off starting with the engines idling > rather than off, since our default start is always on a runway (even Is there a way to set the parking brake at startup so that the plane doesn't roll down (or off) the runway as soo

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > > I am convinced that we're best off starting with the engines idling > > rather than off, since our default start is always on a runway (even > > Is there a way to set the parking brake at startup so that the plane doesn't > roll down (or off) the runway as soon as it

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > > I am convinced that we're best off starting with the engines idling > > > rather than off, since our default start is always on a runway (even > > > > Is there a way to set the parking brake at startup so that the plane doesn't > > roll d

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > I would think that if we are going to have the engine running at > startup, we really should have either the parking brake set, or the > sim come up paused/frozen. Perhaps, but if we get the idle speeds reasonable, it won't be too bad. Having the brakes on by defaul

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Curtis L. Olson writes: > > > I would think that if we are going to have the engine running at > > startup, we really should have either the parking brake set, or the > > sim come up paused/frozen. > > Perhaps, but if we get the idle speeds reasona

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Curtis L. Olson writes: > > > > > I would think that if we are going to have the engine running at > > > startup, we really should have either the parking brake set, or the > > > sim come up paused/frozen. > > > > Perhaps,

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-14 Thread Jim Wilson
John Check <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I could bind a toggle for the brakes to the indicator. > I think it's fairly likely somebody might click on it > Yep great idea. Is the at-startup-parking-brake working? I couldn't seem to make it work last night. Best, Jim

Re: Engines start at idle (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release)

2002-02-14 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > Yep great idea. Is the at-startup-parking-brake working? I couldn't seem > to make it work last night. No, there's some kind of a bug (it might just be that JSBSim is overriding the initial setting), and I'll have to investigate. All the best, David -- David Meggin