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2005-12-22 Thread marjacek
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[Flightgear-devel] [ANN] Blender 2.40 released

2005-12-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
A lot of new stuff. Interesting for aircraft modelers: + improved Boolean Operations, Mesh Ripping, UV & Image Editing, Subdivide Tools, etc. + a new powerful unwrapper (look for "ArchiMap" on this page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~cpbarton/ideasman/ ) - ac3d-import.py partly broken. Below i

[Flightgear-devel] Re: PA24-250 model under development

2005-12-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Stockill -- Thursday 22 December 2005 18:46: > I use blender all the time, unfortunately VRML import in blender is rather > lacking, so a general move to VRML may leave us with some problems (unless > 2.40 has better VRML support of course). Yes, seems so. There's quite a new VRML exporter i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: PA24-250 model under development

2005-12-22 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, December 22, 2005 1:20 pm, Jim Wilson wrote: > A great project if someone wants to take it on would be to enhance VRML > support in plib so that a wider range of options would be available. This > is something that was brought up by David Megginson several times and I > think he is right.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > > Just to add that it doesn't work properly under my Cygwin, but then my > home > > directory is home/vivian meazza/. That's automatically generated by > Cygwin > > and I'm not changing it. I note, however that XP users will install FG > in > > C:\program fi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Stefan Seifert wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should also point out that I received an error message when the new system couldn't load my preferences if they didn't exist. We should see an error message in this case. You received an error message and you should see an error message? See

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Just to add that it doesn't work properly under my Cygwin, but then my home directory is home/vivian meazza/. That's automatically generated by Cygwin and I'm not changing it. I note, however that XP users will install FG in C:\program files\FlightGear. Could you test the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Stefan Seifert
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should also point out that I received an error message when the new system couldn't load my preferences if they didn't exist. We should see an error message in this case. You received an error message and you should see an error message? Seems to me like that's the s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Stefan Seifert
Oliver Schroeder wrote: Yes, I noticed options.?xx before. And I did'nt explicitly meant that part. But cd into the src directory and do a "grep -r argv *". What you will see is for sure not simple and generic. And I just thought it might be helpful to sort things out. I did'nt look too deep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Oliver Schroeder
On Thursday 22 December 2005 14:57, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Oliver Schroeder wrote: > > Would it help to have a generic central commandline-parser, which forces > > developers to provide a description? > > Perhaps you should provide us a definition for a generic central > commandline-parser, be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: What about an option that would say "save preferences changes upon exit"? And only save the options if it's ON? (I've first seen this in the Norton Commander smth like over 10 years ago, very handy.) The same place could be used to add an option to "reset to machine-w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Oliver Schroeder wrote: > Hi List. > > I think that our command line processing is way to scattered and thus > error-prone. Don't feel affronted, I just decided for myself to never touch > anything related to commandline processing in flightgear. > > Would it help to have a generic central comma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Hi List. I think that our command line processing is way to scattered and thus error-prone. Don't feel affronted, I just decided for myself to never touch anything related to commandline processing in flightgear. Would it help to have a generic central commandline-parser, which forces develo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should be? Is there an option to disable this facility? In its

RE: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
> > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > > Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we > > should > > > be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of > > > preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there > > should > > > be? > > > > > > > Just

[Flightgear-devel] Re: PA24-250 model under development

2005-12-22 Thread Jim Wilson
> -Original Message- > From: Melchior FRANZ > > * Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 22 December 2005 10:13: > > Blender is clever, but almost impossible to use. > > > > > To get going quickly, while getting acceptable results I would recommend > > AC3D. The $40 or so it costs is money well spe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Stefan Seifert
Vivian Meazza wrote: Stefan Seifert Vivian Meazza wrote: Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next world scenery build

2005-12-22 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, December 22, 2005 12:38 pm, Martin Spott wrote: > Hello Jon, I hope you didn't get me wrong: > > Martin Spott wrote: > >> I see that SWBD might have slightly more detail in certain areas as it >> follows even small quay walls but the "staircase mode" in SWBD makes it >> insuitable for crea

RE: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Stefan Seifert > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we > should > > be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of > > preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there > should > > be? > > > > Just d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next world scenery build

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Jon, I hope you didn't get me wrong: Martin Spott wrote: > I see that SWBD might have slightly more detail in certain areas as it > follows even small quay walls but the "staircase mode" in SWBD makes it > insuitable for creating FlightGear shorelines right out of the box. It > may well be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Stefan Seifert
Vivian Meazza wrote: Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should be? Just delete the generated preferences.xml? Nine

RE: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott > Erik Hofman wrote: > > > 1. $FG_ROOT should be a global value > > 2. ~/.fgfsrc should be a personal preference > > 3. "fgfs --fg-root" should be a one time option overriding the defaults > > > > Does anybody have any objection to reversing the order? > > _I_ don't object, to my im

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Erik Hofman wrote: I noticed that currently $FG_ROOT has priority over --fg-root in ~/.fgfsrc(.) which in return has priority over --fg-root at the command line. Duh, forget it. It *is* in the right order. It's just that --fg-root got ignored somehow. I'll investigate some further. Erik -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > 1. $FG_ROOT should be a global value > 2. ~/.fgfsrc should be a personal preference > 3. "fgfs --fg-root" should be a one time option overriding the defaults > > Does anybody have any objection to reversing the order? _I_ don't object, to my impression you proposal is the on

RE: [Flightgear-devel] PA24-250 model under development

2005-12-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
"Vivian Meazza" writes Blender is clever, but almost impossible to use. To get going quickly, while getting acceptable results I would recommend AC3D. The $40 or so it costs is money well spent I reckon. The cost includes free updates, which I have found to work well. I'll secound that.I

[Flightgear-devel] options scanninng sequence

2005-12-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi, I noticed that currently $FG_ROOT has priority over --fg-root in ~/.fgfsrc(.) which in return has priority over --fg-root at the command line. To me this seems exactly opposite to what one expects. Personally I feel: 1. $FG_ROOT should be a global value 2. ~/.fgfsrc should be a persona

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Creating a PA34-Seneca (which FDM to choose?)

2005-12-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Fein Bietet Ihr vielleicht auch verguenstigt Type-Ratings fuer FlightGear-Aktivisten an !? ;-) Oh, please excuse, this was meant to be private EMail, But now I want to know the answer :-) Erik

[Flightgear-devel] Re: PA24-250 model under development

2005-12-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 22 December 2005 10:13: > Blender is clever, but almost impossible to use. Oh, sure. That must be why the Concorde, the Bo105 and several others were done with Blender. This opinion is common under people who didn't have the patience to learn a new interface. Yes, it's

RE: [Flightgear-devel] PA24-250 model under development

2005-12-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Dave Perry > > Seeing the PA34 model is encouraging. David Megeson (sp) encouraged me > more than a year ago to model the Piper Comanche in fgfs when I posted > that I had just become 1/3 owner of a 1962 PA24-250 (poor mans Bonanza, > constant speed prop, retracts, 156 kt cruise). Last week I s