Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 24 Ноябрь 2006 21:30 Melchior FRANZ написал(a): > Someone mentioned it already: the aileron animation is > wrong. Goes up when it should go down and vice versa. I fix this, and another bug, but I have not enough time to prepare right update. Too many works at end of year... -- W

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:35 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:20 +0100, Melchior wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > * Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Thursday 09 November 2006 06:09: > > > I think, if users will complain about size, we can put exte

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:20 +0100, Melchior wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Thursday 09 November 2006 06:09: > > I think, if users will complain about size, we can put extended > > livreas to another archive. We even can put sounds separatly too, > > and use def

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Someone mentioned it already: the aileron animation is wrong. Goes up when it should go down and vice versa. Otherwise a very well done model! m. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Te

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

* Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Thursday 09 November 2006 06:09: > I think, if users will complain about size, we can put extended livreas to > another archive. We even can put sounds separatly too, and use default cessna > sounds (one string in -set.xml file). Including the sound is worthwhile. But I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

* Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Wednesday 08 November 2006 06:44: > В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 04:38 Maik Justus написал(a): > > And I found a minor bug. The help (engine start, space bar) only works > > on 1024x768. > > Yes, but parametrized help, for several screen sizes, take too many times for > t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi, Martin Spott schrieb am 15.11.2006 11:42: > Hi Yurik, > > "Yurik V. Nikiforoff" wrote: > >> I look at rotation carefully, and I admit, you are right. Aircraft not >> rotated >> around center of gravity. >> > > I'm glad that we agree on this ;-) > Actually, it's pretty easy to discove

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, "Yurik V. Nikiforoff" wrote: > ? ? ?? 10 ?? 2006 04:17 Martin Spott ???(a): > > I took the AN-2 for a ride at very low altitude along a shoreline in > > order to have a visual reference. Actually I came to a different > > conclusion, but, hey, we'll be able to fix this la

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 10 Ноябрь 2006 04:17 Martin Spott написал(a): > I took the AN-2 for a ride at very low altitude along a shoreline in > order to have a visual reference. Actually I came to a different > conclusion, but, hey, we'll be able to fix this later if required :-) I look at rotation careful

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Martin Spott wrote: > Some of the CVS commit messages are still on their way, but in theory > the model should now be part of the FlightGear CVS base package. I've checked the current CVS state against Yurik's TAR file and everything is in place. Actually I never recieved the CVS commit message f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

> Hmmm... VRP stay at 0,0,0 - you may see it at an2.xml. 3D model > shifted (by > 6.2 m by X ) to this point in an2-model.xml. Imho, both points is right, > cause: > > If there is mismatch between ref points, rotation of model will > wrong, you are > right. I spend many times for tune center of rot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 20:13 Martin Spott написал(a): > With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe "at", I don't > know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at > the nose. Hmmm... VRP stay at 0,0,0 - you may see it at an2.xml. 3D model shifted (by 6.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

> > I think the 3D-Model and the FDM fit together, the model rotates around > > the c.g. (in air). The cause for the "rotating around the nose" is only > > the reference point, where the camera points to. This has been found to be typically true, as far as I remember. Point the camera at the CG (i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, "Yurik V. Nikiforoff" wrote: > This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. > > This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL > with his permission. Some of the CVS commit messages are still on their way, but in theory the model should now

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Maik Justus wrote: > I think the 3D-Model and the FDM fit together, the model rotates around > the c.g. (in air). The cause for the "rotating around the nose" is only > the reference point, where the camera points to. I took the AN-2 for a ride at very low altitude along a shoreline in order to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi, Martin Spott schrieb: > One thing I'd like to have fixed before adding the aircraft to CVS is > the VRP, the Visual Reference Point. This is the point that FDM and 3D > model have to agree upon to be their common point of origin for all > geometry related operations. > With your AN-2, the FDM

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, "Yurik V. Nikiforoff" wrote: > This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. Seen that in real life already, with a huge silencer attached to the exhaust :-) The model acutally "works for me", not only with Flightgear/PLIB but with the current OSG-based binary as well. T

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 12:03, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a écrit : > В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:08 Didier Fabert написал(a): > > nice, what is the net address ? > > I shell write to you and devel list, when it will be ready. > > > me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:08 Didier Fabert написал(a): > > nice, what is the net address ? I shell write to you and devel list, when it will be ready. > me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ > is not installed at all and perhaps never be. Well, I use F

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

"Yurik V. Nikiforoff" wrote: > . When I want to rewrite code and put lights to scenegraph, devel community > begin migration to OSG. I decide wait some times, until process will gone to > working state. Fine, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its frien

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 13:33, Martin Spott a écrit : > I have to admit that the landing-light screeenshot with the AN-2 indeed > looks terribly nice, very desirable. > On the other hand we should not forget that Mathias, during his port to > OSG, is currently working on collecting old crufty scen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:24 Martin Spott написал(a): > According to my memory people didn't fall in love with the proposed > patch because it attempted to set lightning stuff outside the > scenegraph. This results in much higher cost of performance and > maintainability !! compared to a clea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Citing myself Martin Spott wrote: > According to my memory people didn't fall in love with the proposed > patch because it attempted to set lightning stuff outside the > scenegraph. This results in much higher cost of performance and > maintainability !! compared to a clean solution inside t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Didier Fabert wrote: > Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 06:39, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a ?crit?: > > It work only for patched sim. I write patch, for use openGL light source in > > FGFS. This patch was rejected with some reason - read pls devel list about > > two weeks ago. > sorry i don't see it. According

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 06:39, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a écrit : > В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 05:05 Didier Fabert написал(a): > > hi, > > > > how can i switch on the landing light ? like the last image on > > http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=30396 > > It work only for patched sim. I wri

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 12:21 Joacim Persson написал(a): > situations with --real-weather-fetch. I assume it can't take off with 5 > tons under all circumstances? 5 tonn - it is a full (brutto) weight, aircraft+fuel+cargo. After start: 8000 lbs - dry aircraft 350 - crew 1000 - cargo 1200 - f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: > After start sim, aircraft have full load of fuel and cargo, so plane have > weight about 5000 kg (11000lbs). Ah! That explains. ;) (I wondered why I couldn't get a 3.5 m/s climb) This may cause problems in high altitude settings or low pressure we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 05:05 Didier Fabert написал(a): > hi, > > how can i switch on the landing light ? like the last image on > http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=30396 It work only for patched sim. I write patch, for use openGL light source in FGFS. This patch was rejected wit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 23:54 Joacim Persson написал(a): > Yurik: > Perhaps that explains the start-up problems with a 136" prop? Yes, you are right. I can't tune propeller, and I decide to do it late, when starter trouble will fixed. There is handle "Propeller pitch", but it operate wron

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 02:04 Maik Justus написал(a): > if there is a why. And the size should be easy to minimize. Some sounds > have much more size than is necessary and some textures are a little bit > to large (An instrument for the 2D panel need not to be larger than > displayed on a lar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 20:31 Chris Metzler написал(a): > It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was never > able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding > my altitude. Does that seem right? hmmm... something is wrong... After start sim, aircr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

me wrote: > There is something funny with the propeller pitch control. The cause of that is the lines defining minrpm and maxrpm in the propeller definition file for An-2. Only fixed-speed propellers should have a minrpm and maxrpm setting. See the test for fixed pitch/fixed speed/variable pitch p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

hi, how can i switch on the landing light ? like the last image on http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=30396 regards -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi, Curtis Olson schrieb: > > > On 11/8/06, *Martin Spott* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Maik Justus wrote: > > > Why is it not in cvs now? > > > > And Curt is overwhelmed with *way* too many things this week. Perhaps > another developer could look into this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: > > This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. > > This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL > with his permission. > > Model have 8 livreas, original sound, full animated visual and complicate 2d > pa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On 11/8/06, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maik Justus wrote:> Why is it not in cvs now?And Curt is overwhelmed with *way* too many things this week.  Perhaps another developer could look into this.  Room in cvs shouldn't be a problem, unless we just want to create an arbitrary reason. Cur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Maik Justus wrote: > Why is it not in cvs now? I guess because of its size. The 'largest' aircraft we currently have in CVS is about 16 MByte - uncompressed size of the respective aircraft subdirectory. The An-2 has more than twice the size and the person who adds this to CVS is at risk of gettin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, Yurik V. Nikiforoff schrieb: > Well, I suppose about this trouble. It's result of bad help... > > No, I still can't start the engine. Maybe the timing/.nas script is critical (I didn't look into, but maybe the time the stater is engaged depends on framerate or whatever?) > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Chris Metzler wrote: > Heh. Was getting my speed from the property browser. I was a bit worried that you were stalling it around. =) > Well, 70 knots is about 130 km/h, so I guess that's right. It seems > *so* slow though; I was in constant fear of stalling if I did anythin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:02:25 +0100 (CET) Joacim Persson wrote: > > The instrumentation is metric in Russian aircrafts -- sure you weren't > doing just 70 km/h? ;) Heh. Was getting my speed from the property browser. > (no flaps, 900 mmHg --> takeoff at 110 km/h, climbout at 140 km/h, works > for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

2006/11/8, Curtis Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've seen one of these fly in real life and jokingly I will say yes, 70 kts top speed seems about right.  But it might not be too far off.  This is a big lumbering biplane.From "an2 flight operation manual.pdf"...top speed in normal flight (near ground/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, I can just repeat the others: Your AN-2 is fantastic, I really like it. However I've found another small bug: I think the direction of aileron animation is inverted. I hope this aircraft will have a nice place assigned to in the CVS hanger soon. :) Regards, Gabor On Tuesday 07

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

--- Chris Metzler wrote: > It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was > never > able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding > my altitude. Does that seem right? Did you find you were flying at a particularly high angle of attack? You may have been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

I've seen one of these fly in real life and jokingly I will say yes, 70 kts top speed seems about right.  But it might not be too far off.  This is a big lumbering biplane.Curt. On 11/8/06, Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a pretty A/C.  I started and took off with no problem, but was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Chris Metzler wrote: > > It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was never > able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding > my altitude. Does that seem right? The instrumentation is metric in Russian aircrafts -- sure you weren't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was never able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding my altitude. Does that seem right? -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 15:34 Joacim Persson написал(a): > > this limitation, inertial starter may work unstable. > > Works for me anyway. I just followed the instructions on the screen. > Yes, It works, but I can't set diameter of propeller by data sheat from flight manual. Engine can't sta

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: > There is one problem around it. Power of starter not enough for spin engine > shaft with big propeller - as I understand, this is JSBsim limitation. I read > about it in devel list, but fix not ready yet. Cause this limitation, > inertial starter ma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 7 Ноябрь 2006 17:04 AJ MacLeod написал(a): > The main problem with the 2d panel is the way it disappears if one looks > around - this problem was recently fixed in the pc7 and it would be a big > improvement if it was done in the an2. I bind nasal command "center wiew" to one of jo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 04:38 Maik Justus написал(a): > right), the propeller turns some seconds and then: silence... > Any one else with this problem? I answer to next letter. > > And I found a minor bug. The help (engine start, space bar) only works > on 1024x768. Yes, but parametrized he

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 05:42 Didier Fabert написал(a): > > But I have a problem. I am not able to start the engine. I put on > > electric main-switch, magnetos to 1+2, fuel up, starter switch on, other > > starter switch short to the left and then to right (I hold it on the > > right), the pr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Le mardi 7 novembre 2006 23:38, Maik Justus a écrit : > Hi Yurik, > > the plane looks really great, seems to be much time in this bird. > But I have a problem. I am not able to start the engine. I put on > electric main-switch, magnetos to 1+2, fuel up, starter switch on, other > starter switch sho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, the plane looks really great, seems to be much time in this bird. But I have a problem. I am not able to start the engine. I put on electric main-switch, magnetos to 1+2, fuel up, starter switch on, other starter switch short to the left and then to right (I hold it on the right), the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

Hi Yurik, Thank you very much for making this available under the GPL for flightgear. It's a very nice model, with some innovative touches. The instrument textures are great... they'd look even better on 3d instruments ;-) The main problem with the 2d panel is the way it disappears if one loo

[Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download

This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL with his permission. Model have 8 livreas, original sound, full animated visual and complicate 2d panel. There is real flight manual, but only in Russian, sor