Thought this went to the list.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Peter Brown <smoothwater...@adelphia.net>
> Date: January 4, 2011 11:58:58 AM EST
> To: Curtis Olson <curtol...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Generic Autopilot works by location?
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
> 
>> I skimmed through that message but haven't had a chance for a detailed read 
>> through.  It seemed rather complicated to get to the point where the bug is 
>> tickled.  I was hoping I could just run ./fgfs --aircraft=someaircraft 
>> --airport=someairport and then pull up the autopilot settings dialog and see 
>> that things were broken?  But it seems like it's much more complicated than 
>> that to tickle the bug?
>> 
>> Curt.
> 
> aircraft = MD-81
> airport = KBTV
> --prop:/autopilot/target-tracking/enable=1
> 
> Pull up autopilot settings and attempt to change. 
> If unable to change heading, alt hold, or speed to user setting, change 
> /autopilot/target-tracking/target-root = '/ai/models/aircraft[0]' (string) to 
> any number besides [0].  AP should then work.
> This can be done sitting on the runway.
> 
> Peter
> 





>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Peter Brown <smoothwater...@adelphia.net> 
>> wrote:
>> Curt,
>> 
>> I assume you saw the prior email I sent directly with the screen shots 
>> included?  If that's what you are referring to then yes, I agree it's 
>> strange, but I am unable to narrow it down further due to my lack of 
>> programming knowledge.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> I haven't had a chance to follow through and try to replicate what you are 
>>> seeing, but it is strange if there is a link between the hud and the 
>>> autopilot like that.  I'm not sure I've ever played around with target 
>>> tracking?  I've never seen a "lock on" in flightgear, but I haven't played 
>>> around with some of the military features much that some of the guys are 
>>> developing.  It seems really strange though if nothing else?
>>> 
>>> If you can condense this down somehow and still feel there is a real 
>>> problem once you've played with it more, let me know.  I can't vouch for 
>>> how much time I'll have, but I hate having weird obscure bugs lingering 
>>> around.  If too many of them stack up you can end up with an intractable 
>>> mess.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Curt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Peter Brown <smoothwater...@adelphia.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Curt,
>>> 
>>> In working it more and more, my general feeling is threefold -
>>> 
>>> 1 - it's likely a case of my not understanding completely how it the AP, 
>>> HUD, and Target tracking are/were integrated.  Meaning that while I assume 
>>> target tracking allows you to actually lock on to another a/c, most pilots 
>>> use it as a form of "tracking" other aircraft, as a visual reference.  It 
>>> appears that this is no longer there in the current git, but that may 
>>> change when Tat creates a 2.2 build.
>>> 
>>> 2 - I have found that once I enable the target tracking, the autopilot is 
>>> unchangeable _unless_ I change the mp[x] to at least [8] (at Moffett 
>>> Field), and then I can change the autopilot numbers to my preference.  Once 
>>> I've done that, I can change the tracking [x] back to any number with no 
>>> change to the autopilot.  At this point none of this matters with the 
>>> current git files, as enabling target tracking does not bring up the 
>>> tracking rings on the HUD.  Multiplayers on hand while trying this on 
>>> different aircraft were in the teens.
>>> 
>>> 3 - I have not tried it, but my assumption is now that this same method 
>>> will work everywhere, provided I keep the current files from git.  Why the 
>>> target tracking is not affected at the northern and southern latitudes is 
>>> completely unknown.  Outside of KSFO all the other airports had no 
>>> multiplayers within range.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So long and short is that seems to be pretty isolated to me.
>>> Something changed along the way, for using 
>>> --prop:/autopilot/target-tracking/enable=1 for tracking ring display did 
>>> not use to be a problem, and still isn't a problem for another mac user 
>>> using Tat's snapshot.  But obviously it does in what I have set up 
>>> currently, so now that I know the workaround to get it working I can use it.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for taking up your time.
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Curtis Olson wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Hi Peter,
>>> >
>>> > I can't think of any reason the basic autopilot functionality would be 
>>> > tied to a particular location.  Could you provide a specific aircraft and 
>>> > airport (i.e. command line options) that tickle this bug?  Perhaps it's 
>>> > something with your local build?  Perhaps it's something really obscure 
>>> > that no one else has noticed?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Curt.
>>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Curtis Olson:
>>> http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/
>>> http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Curtis Olson:
>> http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/
>> http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/
>> 
> 

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