Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-14 Thread castle
> > See Environment/cloudlayers.xml for the cloud definitions used in the > global > 3D clouds. Found it, so assume you need to add a reference in the preferences.xml file to include this xml file for cloud types, correct? > >> Two related questions: >> >> 1) how does one enable (use) the hi-res

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:13 PM, John wrote: > Hi, > > Was also looking over Thorsten's pics and writeup on the FG forum (assume > those were the pics referenced) and wondering how to go about setting up > the cloud scenery. I think the pics referenced were my photos from a recent RL flying trip

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-14 Thread castle
Hi, Was also looking over Thorsten's pics and writeup on the FG forum (assume those were the pics referenced) and wondering how to go about setting up the cloud scenery. Looked over the README.3DClouds writeup and that pretty much answered the howto but was unable to find any complete xml files (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-14 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Stuart, Great to hear you figured out the elevation issue. Those were the two issues that I noticed: - cloud elevations off - overcast cloud layers not drawn at all One other that I haven't paid close attention to, but one time I wondered if the cloud layer had slid off to the far end of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-14 Thread syd adams
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-13 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi Curt, I've managed to find the problem, and once I get git to play ball, I'll make a merge request! If you've got a list of the 3D clouds bugs you've found and not fixed yourself, I'd be interested in fixing them. The flying trip was fantastic. We flew just over 1000 miles over 8 days (19 hou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-13 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Stuart, thanks for taking a look. How was your trip? Hope you logged a lot of nice flying days! Our weather has been pretty much crap around here and then the nice days I've had to work or had family stuff, so I've logged about 5 minutes of (RC) stick time so far in 2011. :-( Curt. On Fri,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-05-13 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi Curt, I've been looking at the altitude problem all evening, but haven't (yet) found the bug. AFAICT the correct altitude (in m) is being passed down the stack and used to create an altitude offset, so it's not just a case of the stack using the height of the clouds rather than the altitude. I

[Flightgear-devel] Global weather clouds

2011-04-28 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Stuart, I saw that you recently made some updates and bug fixes to the "global weather" 3d clouds including fixing a problem with overcast coverage and also making clouds drift with the wind. This afternoon I started up at my local airport (KANE) and did observe the clouds drifting, which look

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-22 Thread Martin Spott
thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: > I'm offering you an explanation, as there may be things I have thought of > and you haven't. Well, that's your private interpretation and I do respect that you're defending your point of view. Nevertheless, the problem _I_ am talking about is that the recipients of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-19 Thread thorsten . i . renk
>> The way I did the comparison [...] > > Your rather elaborate pleadings make me feel that you've been > implementing a rather 'autonomous' (or 'uncontrollable') system for > setting weather effects, which - obviously - is destined to drive > people into a "comparing apples and pears" situation.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-18 Thread Martin Spott
thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: >> I'd be interested to run such a comparison myself. Could you translate >> the described conditions into a set of command line parameters against >> 'default' FlightGear/GIT startup so I/we can make sure not to interfere >> with local customizations ? > > I don't t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-14 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> I'd be interested to run such a comparison myself. Could you translate > the described conditions into a set of command line parameters against > 'default' FlightGear/GIT startup so I/we can make sure not to interfere > with local customizations ? I don't think it can be done from the command li

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Thorsten (with an H) wrote > > > I haven't fully tested all the options, but in general the frame rate > > cost seems very heavy. > > > Regarding frame-rates: yes, the Local-Weather implementation kills > > non-high-end systems (mine, too). > > I'm getting slightly frustrated here. I've spent m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
>> non-high-end systems (mine, too). >> > I'm getting slightly frustrated here. I've spent months to improve > performance, and I feel by now that I at least deserve a fair judgement > for my effords, i.e. an apples-to-apples comparison rather than a highly > skewed comparison. > Sorry i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Martin Spott
thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: > If you want to compare apples to apples, then you have to level the field. > I've just tested 'fair weather' conditions seen from the same location > (above KLSV), no cloud movement, same altitude of cloud layers and same > visibility of terrain (35 km) and clouds (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> I haven't fully tested all the options, but in general the frame rate > cost seems very heavy. > Regarding frame-rates: yes, the Local-Weather implementation kills > non-high-end systems (mine, too). I'm getting slightly frustrated here. I've spent months to improve performance, and I feel by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 13.09.10 12:02, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: >> I run last sources and data and I also see this message. Is it expecting >> a not yet written feature ? >> > No, I have a GIT binary from a while ago supplied by Hooray which does not > produce the message but detects support available. So

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 13.09.10 11:19, schrieb Vivian Meazza: > HB-GRAL > > > >> Am 13.09.10 00:25, schrieb Torsten Dreyer: >> > Should I really apply a patch from the forum before I use this menu? > > Thanks, Yves > >>> Hi Yves, >>> >>> these messages come from the "Local Wea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> I run last sources and data and I also see this message. Is it expecting > a not yet written feature ? No, I have a GIT binary from a while ago supplied by Hooray which does not produce the message but detects support available. So there exist versions of code in which the patch is supplied, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Thorsten, - "thorsten i renk" a écrit : > > I get the same message on start. > > Yes, there's a script that checks if a hard-coded vector elevation > sampling works or if you have to do repeated goedinfo calls. If the > system is to be compatible with 2.0.0 and to make use of GIT features

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> I get the same message on start. Yes, there's a script that checks if a hard-coded vector elevation sampling works or if you have to do repeated goedinfo calls. If the system is to be compatible with 2.0.0 and to make use of GIT features to speed it up, it has to have some way of knowing if the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> Torsten, sorry, I get this anyway in the log, it’s just new here today. > But I get a bus error when I try to use 'Global weather' in the GUI, > 'Local weather' seems to work. Do I need some special command line > options to use 'global weather' from the menu? > No special option is required

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
HB-GRAL > Am 13.09.10 00:25, schrieb Torsten Dreyer: > >> > Should I really apply a patch from the forum before I use this menu? > >> > > >> > Thanks, Yves > > Hi Yves, > > > > these messages come from the "Local Weather" nasal based implementation. > The > > mentioned patch is not necessary t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 13.09.10 00:25, schrieb Torsten Dreyer: >> > Should I really apply a patch from the forum before I use this menu? >> > >> > Thanks, Yves > Hi Yves, > > these messages come from the "Local Weather" nasal based implementation. The > mentioned patch is not necessary to run the local weather but i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-12 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> Hi > > This is what I get when I try to acitvate 'Global Weather' in the GUI: > > Compatibility layer: Checking available Nasal APIs: > (this may cause harmless error messages when hard-coded support is lacking) > ## > Warning: invalid line segment passed

[Flightgear-devel] Global Weather

2010-09-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi This is what I get when I try to acitvate 'Global Weather' in the GUI: Compatibility layer: Checking available Nasal APIs: (this may cause harmless error messages when hard-coded support is lacking) ## Warning: invalid line segment passed to IntersectVis