Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi! John Denker wrote: > I know there are some people on this list who are interested > in procedurally-realistic flying. Definitely! :-) Cheers, Ralf - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Hans Fugal
On 7/4/07, John Denker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know whether there should be more > > trim indication in plane cockpits or (because of the already-cramped > > screen) > > That argument cuts both ways. The real aircraft *is* > crammed with stuff. One of the things that always amuse

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread John Denker
On 07/04/2007 01:44 PM, Hans Fugal wrote: > FWIW, when flying I have often wanted to see trim indication so I > think the popup is valuable. And it's not just trim; it's also carb heat and cowl flaps and speed brakes and other things that make a complex aircraft complex. I've been hoping to make

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Hans Fugal
FWIW, when flying I have often wanted to see trim indication so I think the popup is valuable. I don't know whether there should be more trim indication in plane cockpits or (because of the already-cramped screen) if a popup is a better approach, but I like the always-available popup idea. Numbers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * John Denker -- Wednesday 04 July 2007: > > > Well, there are still two objections concerning the submissions: > > [- fixed size and positions of dialogs] > But the first problem concerns both submissions, > and to reduce noise on the list I combined that. Didn't wo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Denker -- Wednesday 04 July 2007: > > Well, there are still two objections concerning the submissions: [- fixed size and positions of dialogs] > > - the name gremlins.nas. But this could certainly be changed by > > whoever commits this. I suggested failure.nas. The function > > name gr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread John Denker
On 07/04/2007 10:49 AM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Well, there are still two objections concerning the submissions: > > - the name gremlins.nas. But this could certainly be changed by > whoever commits this. I suggested failure.nas. The function > name gremulate() isn't pretty, either, especiall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Denker -- Wednesday 04 July 2007: > Bottom line: Does anybody have any suggestions and/or > questions about this work? Well, there are still two objections concerning the submissions: - the name gremlins.nas. But this could certainly be changed by whoever commits this. I suggested failu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Mittwoch 04 Juli 2007 15:59 schrieb John Denker: > If some developer, for development purposes, wants to increase > the number of digits in the display, I parameterized the > format so that changing it is a simple one-character edit. >http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/flight-control.diff > I hope

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread John Denker
On 07/03/2007 04:28 AM, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Remember: P 6 - Piss Poor Peer-review Prevents Proper Performance I agree! IMHO a "peer-review" that snipes at "int ii" as opposed to "int i" -- to the exclusion of any discussion of actual features that pilots can use -- is pretty poor. IMHO it i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-04 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Denker wrote: > Let me also point out that the word "gremlin" is in the dictionary. > Its primary meaning explains exactly the purpose of gremlins.nas. Please consider, that not by far not all FG contributors are native English speakers and thus

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Oh, sorry. Forgot this one ... * John Denker -- Wednesday 04 July 2007: > I can see making another mode, to serve another purpose, such > as debugging joysticks, and /four/ digits would be worthwhile > in that case. It would be simple to put a mode-change button > on the existing popup. I'd assu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Denker -- Wednesday 04 July 2007: > On 07/03/2007 06:09 PM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > What I don't really understand is why local variables need to be ii and > > nnn. What's wrong with just i and n, like everyone else uses? > Skilled programmers double the i and triple the n so that the >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-03 Thread John Denker
On 07/03/2007 06:09 PM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: >>http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/flight-control.diff > > Certainly useful for many people. :-) > I think a third digit after the > comma would be useful for axes, as two are barely enough for even > bad joysticks. It depends on the purpose. Fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Denker -- Tuesday 03 July 2007: > This implements a popup to show the position of the flight controls > and trim. [...] >http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/flight-control.diff Certainly useful for many people. I think a third digit after the comma would be useful for axes, as two are barely e

[Flightgear-devel] flight control and trim position popup

2007-07-03 Thread John Denker
This implements a popup to show the position of the flight controls and trim. This is a workaround for the many aircraft that still lack usable trim indicators, cowl flap indicators, et cetera. "TRIM SET" is a checklist item in every aircraft I've seen; it's kinda hard to have a realistic flight