Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread Etienne Bourque
 : 27 février 2010 12:59 À : FlightGear developers discussions Objet : Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package Hi, What ever is discussed, decided, as someone else noted, a full FG 'base' data checkout now takes HOURS, on a fast machine with good Internet connection,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread syd adams
Interesting idea... Ive got a panel file for each panel layout , but that changes the entire instrument positions and types , not individual instruments ... Might be tricky unless the instrument selection is from the Instruments-3d folder ... Just thinking out loud here :) Syd On Sat, Feb 27, 201

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread Gary Neely
I don't know about dynamic positioning of instruments, but I would find it interesting to have an easy method of selecting alternate instruments for the same position. For example, I have several attitude indicator variations that could be used based on period or pilot/owner preference. This would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread syd adams
I can see 3d instruments being easier position them on the panel with a mouse click then drag them like i did the b1900d manual ... or menu buttons in a dialog like the ufo does scenery objects for finer adjustments ... I suppose the 2d instrument placement would be almost the same... Dont kno

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread Curtis Olson
Could certainly be done ... perhaps (although maybe a little awkwardly ... or not?) using the FlightGear gui and nasal infrastructure. I'm envisioning the 2d panel structure I guess ... probably would be more complicated with 3d panels. Curt. On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:26 PM, syd adams wrote: >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread syd adams
I think I misunderstood you ... a graphical tool to do this would certainly speed things up ... currently I used a dummy panel in Blender to find positions. I though you meant from the runtime menu :). Syd On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Megginson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:10

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread David Megginson
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:10 PM, syd adams wrote: > Its already pretty easy to point the section to a different > instrument , and the one Im currently working on , Im creating several panel > files with different layouts that can be selected in the set file , but I'd > hate to see instruments b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread syd adams
Ewww , a GUI to do this ? Its already pretty easy to point the section to a different instrument , and the one Im currently working on , Im creating several panel files with different layouts that can be selected in the set file , but I'd hate to see instruments being changeable while in flight ..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread Geoff McLane
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 10:18 -0700, Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 07:56 -0500, David Megginson wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: > > > > >> I still support the idea common shared directories idea for such things > > >> as > > >> instruments Hi, What eve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 07:56 -0500, David Megginson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: > > >> I still support the idea common shared directories idea for such things as > >> instruments > > > This is a nice, happy thought. But in the real world it hasn't worked > > out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Something I'd love to see, in the long term, is a GUI that allows users to customize their panels, just like real aircraft owners do. I could decide to install a different brand of TC (the default late 1970s Cessna 172P now has a vintage 1950s needle and ball instead of a TC -- cool, but what's up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> A Sigma-Tek attitude gyro, for example, looks and works pretty-much > the same as a primary instrument for a Cessna 150 or as a backup > instrument on a 747 -- the differences (such as different voltage for > the backlighting) are pretty trivial. I'd hate to see 100 copies of > the same Sigma-Te

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-27 Thread David Megginson
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: >> I still support the idea common  shared directories idea for such things as >> instruments > This is a nice, happy thought.  But in the real world it hasn't worked > out so well.  Since we model such a huge variety of aircraft, and > differe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-26 Thread Ron Jensen
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 21:13 +, Alan Teeder wrote: > I still support the idea common shared directories idea for such things as > instruments > > Alan This is a nice, happy thought. But in the real world it hasn't worked out so well. Since we model such a huge variety of aircraft, and di

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-26 Thread Alan Teeder
-- From: "Gene Buckle" Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 PM To: "FlightGear developers discussions" Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Alan Teeder wrote: > >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-26 Thread Gene Buckle
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Alan Teeder wrote: >> Maybe it's time to use what's already there? >> > One problem which springs to mind is that there must be many same name files > (e.g. HSI.xml and its related HSI.ac) which are specific to one aircraft and > are in fact entirely different. > > These will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-26 Thread Alan Teeder
-- From: "Stefan Seifert" Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:26 PM To: "FlightGear developers discussions" Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package > This repeatedly strikes me as problems that Linux

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-26 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Friday 26 February 2010 17:16:38 Detlef Faber wrote: > I guess most duplicate files are instruments which are not in the > generic folder. > Of course it would be desireable to have them all in one place and > reference to there, but that would cause severe problems with the > aircraft download

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-26 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Donnerstag, den 25.02.2010, 22:23 +0100 schrieb Roy Vegard Ovesen: > FSlint reports that the base package, or the data directory, contains quite a > lot of duplicate files. The file that is wasting the most bytes is > glass_shader.png (some instances named glass.png) with 43 974 656 bytes, or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-25 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday February 26 2010 02:18:30 syd adams wrote: > I agree , there's a lot of duplication ,(in instruments, too) but I think > the problem is author's tastes ... > I've duplicated textures because I dont care for the look , or style , > etc,of existing ones and Im sure that's the same for other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate files in base package

2010-02-25 Thread syd adams
I agree , there's a lot of duplication ,(in instruments, too) but I think the problem is author's tastes ... I've duplicated textures because I dont care for the look , or style , etc,of existing ones and Im sure that's the same for other contributors. So it might be a problem deciding who's get's