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Yes, and "Familiar Pee" the antonym of "Strange Brew". RA Patricia wrote: > Would "Stale Urine" then, be the antonym for "Fresh Cream?" > > PK > > Reed Altemus wrote: > > > Yes, quite. Those lines are a poem in themselves. > > > > RA > > > > Eryk Salvaggio wrote: > > > > > this is my quote of t

Re: FLUXLIST: Recent posts

Music with elaborate packaging is fine but I have an aversion to believing that the two must always be present before the music is legitimized. Myke

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> yes it was called the white album but inside were photos of yoko and > john nude. Whoops! Jolly, jolly, whoops! Jolly, jolly, jolly... You're getting The Beatles 'white album' and J&Y's "Two Virgins" confused! :) Myke

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Terrence writes; One senior artist told me once, "artists can't be (ethically) environmentalists". I didn't agree but i saw his point. It did not stop me from producing art about my environmental anti consumer concerns. I still make use of my utility of pleasure but there is pleasure in the tools

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At 08:51 pm -0700 3/4/00, Eryk Salvaggio wrote: >this is my quote of the week. > >"Villani, Adam" wrote: > >> The actual sounds created are just a part of >> the Stale Urine experience. i drink my ownurine ___ i drink my ownurine i drink my ownurine it is my medi-zine i drink my own

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Would "Stale Urine" then, be the antonym for "Fresh Cream?" PK Reed Altemus wrote: > Yes, quite. Those lines are a poem in themselves. > > RA > > Eryk Salvaggio wrote: > > > this is my quote of the week. > > > > "Villani, Adam" wrote: > > > > > The actual sounds created are just a part of > > >

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Yes, quite. Those lines are a poem in themselves. RA Eryk Salvaggio wrote: > this is my quote of the week. > > "Villani, Adam" wrote: > > > The actual sounds created are just a part of > > the Stale Urine experience.

Re: FLUXLIST: Sensitive Issues

Hi Carol, Its just from a catalogue of an exhibit that was in Vancouver that I happen to have. The catalogue is of a show called Luxe, calme et volupte: aspects of French Art 1966-1986 at the Vancouver Art Gallery. There's a nice little interview with Filliou in it too. I imagine there's some bo

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Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote: > > There's a certain pleasure in cataloguing and organizing > > things, and creating album covers with detailed liner notes is part of that > > experience. It also helps us keep the flow of information about the band > > going. > > I agree. I'm not anti-artwork or any

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yes it was called the white album but inside were photos of yoko and john nude. carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Villani, Adam wrote: > > Music with no accompanying artwork. Hmmm... > > Didn't The Beatles attempt that once? >

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hi george, can you give us the text for the buren/duchamp critisism? perhaps when we think of criticism we might better say investigations. alot of study is required if one isn't going to go around thinking one has invented the wheel.especially early on in one's career. carol starr taos, new me

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Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote: > > Of course cover art is just a contingent aspect of music, but it's beloved. > > It has been a source of richness. Is it necessary? Of course not. Does its > > belovedness matter? It ought to-- > > > > And virtual imagery doesn't show the marks of time. Nothing like

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this is my quote of the week. "Villani, Adam" wrote: > The actual sounds created are just a part of > the Stale Urine experience.

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> the record would change over time as it accumulated dust and scratches. Very fluxus! Very kewl. Myke

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> There's a certain pleasure in cataloguing and organizing > things, and creating album covers with detailed liner notes is part of that > experience. It also helps us keep the flow of information about the band > going. I agree. I'm not anti-artwork or anything like that. I just found it a sha

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> I don't dare get rid of the LPs which I too have on CD simply because > of the artwork - however, I don't believe the artwork gives legitimacy > to the music it wraps - unless you're talking legal legitimacy in the > sense that an LP has big artwork and a homemade cassette copy of said > LP does

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> Music with no accompanying artwork. Hmmm... > Didn't The Beatles attempt that once? Christian Marclay once released the "Album Without a Cover," which came with instructions that one was not to put it in a cover. The idea was that the record would change over time as it accumulated dust and sc

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> Of course cover art is just a contingent aspect of music, but it's beloved. > It has been a source of richness. Is it necessary? Of course not. Does its > belovedness matter? It ought to-- > > And virtual imagery doesn't show the marks of time. Nothing like cardboard > scuffed around the edges a

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> There's a book out of illustrations from the covers of published sheet > music, I saw an ad-- But were such covers generally considered "official" in the sense that all later copies of the sheet music were supposed to be adorned with the same graphics the way we treat LPs, CDs, cassettes, etc.

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I like the artwork too. I own 1,500 LPs and even more CDs. I don't dare get rid of the LPs which I too have on CD simply because of the artwork - however, I don't believe the artwork gives legitimacy to the music it wraps - unless you're talking legal legitimacy in the sense that an LP has big ar

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>Terrence writes; > >I find it sad how many artits are taught to be so critical. They seem to create >under such burdons and with theortical restraints. I am anti bordom. > If you aren't critical, though, you will just repeat the past -- and actually you will only repeat the outward appearance o

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> XIXth century had even some of its best painters used to illustrate the > partitions of the most advanced composer of their time, Which is why I attempted to blur the distinction between artwork at all and artwork physically wrapping a musical storage medium. Put the artwork and the music on a

FLUXLIST: Beyond Form: Architecture and the Space of Media

todayine-mail >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >In preparation for the publication of > >"Beyond Form: Architecture and the Space of Media" > >a Lusitania Press volume to be published later this year, a panel >discussion on the relationship between Architecture and Art will >be hosted by New York Univers

Re: FLUXLIST: Sensitive Issues

At 10:35 am -0400 2/4/00, George Free wrote: >>What did Buren say ? In relation to Duchamp. >For myself, they are still unresolved >even if a solution appears from time to time in my work. "there is no solution because there is no problem" indeed duchamp ...pez ps: i stayed two hours in a lin

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-- > From: Lord Hasenpfeffer > Still, his music was legitimately "released" and later embraced by the public > all without the assistance of "cover art" which was my point. To feel a sense > of illegitimacy about the state of one's music because it has no associated > cover art is a r

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> > Myke > > For sure, LP's covers had to wait until Edison to appear as a fruitful > idea... > however, it seems to me that written music, and I'm not only speaking of the > enluminated religious song codexes of the medieval ages, used to be loudly > illustrated, particularly when the were publ

Re: FLUXLIST: Who is Arno Sounds?

hey, don't attack me because some lacklustre bobby conn fan is not devoted enough to put sounds on his site! i think the best thing to do would be to buy one of conn's albums, "rise up!" or "bobby conn," or the latest "llovesongs." but that is quite a commitment, so i would advise going to a site

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> > Even in his day, I think Mozart had a publisher. And his music wouldn't have > > survived if it hadn't been written down on paper. > > Still, his music was legitimately "released" and later embraced by the public > all without the assistance of "cover art" which was my point. To feel a sense

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Apparently, according to this post, Eine Kleine went through some revisions - perhaps the cover art was "ripped off." I suppose if this were done digitally, it would paraphrase one of the "website unseen" titles: "Close Your Eyes, Make a Wish, Hit Delete" http://classicals.com/music/WolfgangAma

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> Even in his day, I think Mozart had a publisher. And his music wouldn't have > survived if it hadn't been written down on paper. Still, his music was legitimately "released" and later embraced by the public all without the assistance of "cover art" which was my point. To feel a sense of illeg

FLUXLIST: Who is Arno Sounds?

At 11:42 AM 4/3/2000 -0500, gail v. braddock wrote: >i am just a fan who wants to share conn with the world. for more >information, see >http://pages.hotbot.com/arts/bobby_conn/ > So I went there to listen to the next great anti-christ... << As this

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> Terrence writes; > > > Simplyfy your life with 'highend' things. > > Real Simple mag; Heiko, I too like the visuals w/ the music, the album covers, etc. Some of the most indelible images from my childhood were images from album covers. Terrence: Real Simple mag is run by an editor who is

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> What did the original cover art for "Eine Kleine Knachtmusik" > look like? I think it was one of those Roger Dean Yes-style prog paintings of dragons and wizards and stuff. Even in his day, I think Mozart had a publisher. And his music wouldn't have survived if it hadn't been written down on p

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> but I don't feel like they've "officially" been released until we put > them on a CD or cassette and print up liner notes and a cover. What did the original cover art for "Eine Kleine Knachtmusik" look like? > I seriously doubt this rumored demise of the book, too. I shudder to think what kno

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> > There's also talk about the virtual as well as real elimination of > > the jewel box -- this new "simplicity" crossed with a > technologically > > Do you want this ? Elimination of LP covers etc, THINGS, I liked them. I agree, Heiko. My band has plenty of recordings, many of which are on

FLUXLIST: vaguely un-fluxist contribution

as i am currently working my way through the 1008 fluxlist messages i have received but not yet read, i am struck by the "start a new list devoted to arguments about music" sentiment. before this argument causes a new list (or some type of e-mail war), i would like to say the following abou

Re: FLUXLIST: The State of Fluxlist

but then virtual masturbation would prob'ly calm the savage beast as well *grin* ddyment wrote: > >A veritable warzone...over music discussions? Isn't the latter > >supposed to calm the savage beast > > i agree, patricia. and worse is that the most vocal opposition comes from > the most pro

Re: FLUXLIST: more music than fluxus?

> Most of it. Lack of that sweet bit of knowledge must have been > preventing my enlightenment. Help! But that's another story... Myke

Re: FLUXLIST: The State of Fluxlist

>A veritable warzone...over music discussions? Isn't the latter >supposed to calm the savage beast i agree, patricia. and worse is that the most vocal opposition comes from the most prolific of abusers. at least record and book collecting can have /some/ relation to fluxus. much of these pos

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Terrence writes; It is interesting for all to note. Interactive Multimedia CD roms continue to be more popular in France (and Europe I imagine). They are in pocket book sized packages and lined up like books with great selection and variety that you have to carefully browse. Wereas in North Ameri

Re: FLUXLIST: more music than fluxus?

>Dewsbury is NW of Osset and SE of Heckmondwike in Yorkshire >The Dewsbury Road is the road that leads there - probably from Liverpool. >There may be a big bus/coach depot there. >It's where people can go to have a lovely time! Oh, then I think I'd like to be 10 miles north of wherever it is I