Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-22 Thread ArtnAnts
I wish I was- dont you?

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:

2002-12-22 Thread ArtnAnts
gee I AM sorry! who are you then?

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: easy reading materials

2002-12-22 Thread ArtnAnts
thanks- if you send me your snail mail I will send you a fluxus peice I did in memory of Princess Petal--- madawg

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-22 Thread ArtnAnts
death what is it that you want?

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-22 Thread ArtnAnts
sorry you are not feeling well --its that time of year

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-22 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > I propose that you are not a MALE YANG LEADER. You cannot propose anything babycheeks. You're simply mouthing off :)

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-22 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > If you want a date, why don't you just ask? Dearest babycheeks, nobody is solicting you. We don't have any interest in you at all. > Course I would definitely say no...that is a rejection. Oh is THAT how it is? You just won't let it go until

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-22 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > Here is Yin and Yang used for fortune telling ... > > http://www.fortuneangel.com/5EBasic.htm > > Gives you shivers, doesn't it. Standard trick: find humans who abuse concepts and present that abuse as the real thing. Yin and YANG ARE EVIL PROPAG

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
> We havent "expressed" any "us" for you to agree or disagree with, > nor would we care if we did. I propose that you are not a MALE YANG LEADER. joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist) frank + lyn - mc + El + roy go shopping -> http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm call me 64

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As for the ancient "outmoded worldview" homosexual gay magic > is two-yang. It's absolutely not controllable at all. > Hence Monsieur Hitler killed them off. We suppose it still worked > in 1940s. If you want a date, why don't you ju

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Here is Yin and Yang used for fortune telling ... http://www.fortuneangel.com/5EBasic.htm Gives you shivers, doesn't it. joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist) frank + lyn - mc + El + roy go shopping -> http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm call me 646 279 2309 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > > Due to being egotistical. Envious, Fraud. Jealous. > > Simpleton. > > The last resort of the childish mind - No babycheeks. We are not at all on any "last resorts". Keep your wishful brain cut outs to yourself. Nor are we reacting from any br

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > Silly billy - No dearest we are not silly. > A worldview is a perception of the world, not the world itself. Only an infantile brain obsessed ape can POSSIBLY condescend with this ignorant statement. Thea bove is simply NONSENSE. DRIVEL. > If

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > Ying and Yang are two clowns hanging out in a Bejiing disco. No, babycheeks they are not. > It doesn't matter how you want to define them, Yin and yanga re not defined. They simply are. Nor do we "want". We lack desires of such sort. Nor do we

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > THE ONLY MIND-CONTROL GAME IS THAT THERE IS NOTHING BUT WORLDVIEWS. Silly billy - A worldview is a perception of the world, not the world itself. If you lived in a brick room with no doors and a hole through which food appeared daily an

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > An effective control technique We are not attempting to control anyone babycheeks. Avoid attempting to place non-existent intent in our actions. Secondly, you're a CONTROLLED ape. You don't know anything about control techniques :) > is to pres

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Due to being egotistical. Envious, Fraud. Jealous. > Simpleton. The last resort of the childish mind - "you disagree with me because you are jealous of me". You sound like Eryk. Grow up. joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance is

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > To comment upon the actions of another without UNDERSTANDING is ARROGANCE. No No it isn't babycheeks. You don't know what arrogance is at all. You simply whore out words (like your wife:) to shove your ego. > matter how you may claim UNDERSTANDI

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ying and Yang are two clowns hanging out in a Bejiing disco. It doesn't matter how you want to define them, or how they have been defined in the past. They are proproganda for an ancient worldview...I reject them...perhaps I would be inter

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
The ignorant ape bleated again furthermore posturing in self-importance: > YANG MALE ENERGY - opinionated, stubborn, and single-minded > YIN FEMALE ENGERGY - open, optimistic, collaborative, and imagitive That is not what yang energy is, babycheeks. Yin energy is not "open, optimistic, collab

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >I am quite confident you're intelligent enough to discern >at least that there is a grain of truth in the above. An effective control technique is to present a position and imply a person is not intelligent (or moral) enough to unde

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ah so lovely. Passive-aggressive idiocy. > > You "forgive" something that you lack UNDERSTANDING of? > > This is not forgiveness babycheeks, it's arrogance. To comment upon the actions of another without UNDERSTANDING is ARROGANCE. N

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread joseph (yes)
> Now on to why you DISLIKE us (and hence the murderous idiotisms). > > There are two forces functioning in the human : yin and yang. > When a human is DISCERNING, NOT OPEN TO SUGGESTIBILITY, and > CONSCIOUS, s/he acts from a great dose of YANG MALE ENERGY. > > That is why you "dislike"

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Josh Ronsen wrote: > But your point is taken, Don, and I hereby forgive those people on Fluxlist who >recently were not talking to me... Ah so lovely. Passive-aggressive idiocy. You "forgive" something that you lack UNDERSTANDING of? This is not forgiveness babycheek

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-21 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > aggressive comments (I apologize if any were mine). Artistic environements > should never be censored but respect should always be given. Certainly. And that would apply to ignorants who won't take "NO" as an answer, and attempt to "attach them

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-20 Thread St.Auby Tamas
H, In the IPUT-Archives there is a frying-pan what Mr. Friedman personally used in 1988 in Geneva, Ch, when he visited the Gallery Ruine. He used the pan with his own hands to fry two eggs (just after that he saw a blue sculpture of a naked woman). The assistants of the Archives were told not to w

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-20 Thread Carol Starr
alas, no photo. why don't you post it so we can see it? bests, carol Josh Ronsen wrote: > Carol Starr wrote: > > >josh i agree with you about ken friedman and still feel it is a > >great loss that he left the list. i too have a collection of the > >essays he posted on the list. so perhaps there

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXUS FOR DUMMIES

2002-12-20 Thread Josh Ronsen
Don Boyd writes: >Josh, How about an "old snail mail address?" I was just kidding about working on Fluxus for Dummies book, but it would make a welcome addition to the more absurd titles in that series, like "Judism for Dummies" and "Doctorial Studies in High Energy Physics for Dummies." OK, th

FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-20 Thread Josh Ronsen
Carol Starr wrote: >josh i agree with you about ken friedman and still feel it is a >great loss that he left the list. i too have a collection of the >essays he posted on the list. so perhaps there are two limited >editions, i wonder if >they are the same? Mine has a little photo of him about

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #350

2002-12-20 Thread Georg Birkner
good evening slavko kacunko i really hope that you've found this contact information for allan kaprow. if so, i would highly appreciate if you sent it to me! this summer, me and my girlfriend visited kaprow's environment at mumok in vienna. there, we immediately fell in love with one of the sofa

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #350

2002-12-20 Thread Georg Birkner
PROTECTED] > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FLUXLIST-digest) > Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Datum: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:49:57 -0800 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #350 > > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:51:02 -0600 > From: "Josh Ronsen" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: listen

2002-12-20 Thread Anne Drogyness
on 12/20/02 5:12 PM, Josh Ronsen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> So what does everyone on this list listen to? DJ SCREW + some other things -- Anne Drogyness (dnae)

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #350

2002-12-20 Thread Georg Birkner
good evening kate rafael horzon (http://www.modocom.de) has nothing to do with fluxus but is really very cool and is also in berlin. do not be afraid to visit him in his shop at Torstraße 68, Berlin-Mitte - as far as i know, he is also likable, although i don't know him personally... georg -- G

FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus", GM, LMY

2002-12-20 Thread Anne Drogyness
on 12/20/02 5:25 PM, Josh Ronsen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've always been attracted to the darker side of Fluxus history, the > expulsions, arguments, excommunications Have you read this?- http://www.henryflynt.org/aesthetics/APchptr10.html not really "dark side", but still a different lo

FLUXLIST: Re: "spirit of Fluxus"

2002-12-20 Thread Josh Ronsen
Don Boyd writes: >The "Spirit" of Fluxus, as I understood it, what attracted me to it, was the >expansiveness, the willingness to support others and their ideas, in fact >forgiveness and inclusiveness. I don't see that in these recent exchanges. I've always been attracted to the darker side of

FLUXLIST: Re: listen

2002-12-20 Thread Josh Ronsen
>So what does everyone on this list listen to? I am still very much interested in the modernist/avant-garde composers Ligeti, Xenakis, Nono, Scelsi, Stockhausen, and Cage and Feldman whose works exist on another level. Ligeti continually surprises me. I just listened to the recent Sony CD of his

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-20 Thread BSolotaire
I would agree with Don's statement about the spirit of Fluxus. I've enjoyed this list for it's fun and inclusiveness. Everyone is supportive of peoples requests and comments and there have recently been some wierd and I would say aggressive comments (I apologize if any were mine). Artistic envir

FLUXLIST: Re: GREETINGS!!!!!!!

2002-12-20 Thread Carol Starr
to all on the FLUXLIST very best wishes to everyone for whatever holiday you are or are not celebrating at this time of the winter solstice. the almost full moon last night was an unforgettable experience; 10 degrees and air so very clear and sparkling snow. (my dog takes me out). it has been a

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-20 Thread Don Boyd
The "Spirit" of Fluxus, as I understood it, what attracted me to it, was the expansiveness, the willingness to support others and their ideas, in fact forgiveness and inclusiveness. I don't see that in these recent exchanges. -Don

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-20 Thread Carol Starr
josh i agree with you about ken friedman and still feel it is a great loss that he left the list. i too have a collection of the essays he posted on the list. so perhaps there are two limited editions, i wonder if they are the same? bests, carol Josh Ronsen wrote: > Ken Friedman is an informa

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-20 Thread gabriel swossil
> Maybe before the end > of the year I will make a list of links to his essays for those who did not > see them when first posted. > > -Josh Ronsen > in Austin, Texas thanks josh that would be of much help. by the way i agree with you about ken friedman... gabriel

FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-20 Thread Josh Ronsen
Ken Friedman is an informative, helpful writer and a wonderful correspondant and I feel honored to have been in contact with him. And even when I disagree with his views, I do so with respect. The amount of informative substance on Fluxlist has dramatically dropped since he left. I have collecte

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-20 Thread John M. Bennett
At 01:43 PM 12/17/2002 +, you wrote: on 12/17/02 4:45 PM, John M. Bennett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ate you the lung subjective case tow it spew the lung it spoons whip, nor > glow of sputum hives stones, of wrist stones from glovement it ignores, > fierce silence - new mulch you choking

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:

2002-12-20 Thread John M. Bennett
At 02:12 PM 12/17/2002 +, you wrote: on 12/17/02 4:55 PM, John M. Bennett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ate spit slabs releasing "et": * It, that the fatty ground gold mould of the elasticity of the tastes of fatty ground gold mould freely, yew of fatty ground the gold mould of fatty ground

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:

2002-12-20 Thread John M. Bennett
At 02:00 PM 12/17/2002 +, you wrote: on 12/17/02 4:51 PM, John M. Bennett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ate mold tongue gives lonely slime i spore injectly thrown it from the > slaw glove, it spurts glove the mildly slime recision it tongues like > shaved hose mold grunted you slime spans tr

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-19 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > You confrontations, like spider webs in the face, dissolve under pressure. Spin > your webs on the weak, little spiderman. A spider does not "speak" Meaningless "symbolical" drivel. Nothing of the sort is occurring babycheeks. The "symbolism" th

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-19 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > > We do not have "opinions" nor are we flawed. Wea re accurate + precise. > > Like an anteater who claims to eat plants. "I am a vegatarian!" Nothing like the wishful projections inside your brain, babycheeks. We are_ accurate & precise. You are a

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #348

2002-12-19 Thread Rod Stasick
--- Josh Ronsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe someone should repost the very first Fluxlist post > in celebration. Well, in reality...it's the 10,000th post under the newest archive system. The old archive system is all wicky-wacky, so who knows? here's the first (or, rather, the 0th) un

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #348

2002-12-19 Thread Josh Ronsen
Rod Stasick writes: >Crispin Webb leaves the 10,000th Fluxlist post! Maybe someone should repost the very first Fluxlist post in celebration. Rod, are you currently in Texas? -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-19 Thread Eric Andersen
The usual nonsense. I have never harassed that man. Just explained how he was seen by the Fluxus artists. We would all have preferred that he had promoted something else. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Georg-- > > ...Anderson starrted harrassing him on-list and he left. We miss him. > AK

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-19 Thread klefkal
20 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FLUXLIST-digest) >> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Datum: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:30:10 -0800 >> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Betreff: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #338 >> >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Dec

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-19 Thread Markku Nivalainen
> OK, specifically who is not talking to me? I have lost track. I'm not talking to anyone so I guess I'm not talking to you either. Some are all mouth and trousers though.

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-19 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We do not have "opinions" nor are we flawed. Wea re accurate + precise. Like an anteater who claims to eat plants. "I am a vegatarian!" The ants still run. joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist) frank + lyn - mc + El + roy go

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-19 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Infantile meaningless sidestep. > Standard response: when confronted with itself "evades" into > random noise. And we do understand, Joseph. You confrontations, like spider webs in the face, dissolve under pressure. Spin your webs on

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > You do not have facts, you have opinions. Flawed ones. No babycheeks. We speak facts. We don't 'have' them. We do not have "opinions" nor are we flawed. Wea re accurate + precise. Avoida ttempting to project your wishful projections onto us. > > >

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > It doesn't, nor does it have anything to do with self-important old farts > sitting in a cubical and not eating for a few days. Infantile meaningless sidestep. Standard response: when confronted with itself "evades" into random noise. And we do und

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-18 Thread Anne Drogyness
on 12/18/02 2:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > no muscle aches, drink three moves fast, train ager "et": of sense that one found, quickly saw the not dates muscles, drinks three movements, you with the sanitary napkins gave the jolt me elasticity train That we do -- Anne D

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-18 Thread Anne Drogyness
on 12/18/02 3:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > peach mounds throw darts no muscles ache drinks more ream stranger "et": One-or I you that I do not give it to you peach, or game it within those that germinates on it or Not, unknown maize drunk muscles of found from packing -

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Anne Drogyness
on 12/18/02 2:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > who's to say "et": the must saying to you -- Anne Drogyness (dnae)

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
I agree very much about what your idea of what an artist is but I dont get who you are replying to. Also how do you judge who is a twit and who isnt? Actually I guess the audience judges but no one really listens to the audience thats why there are art critics and censors. Art sucks when you start

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
hey are you still here? I would have thought you would be bored and disgusted with fluxlist by now

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
a good question and what is fluxus? I say bring em on! they'll get bored and leave soon enough thats not a dig towards fluxlist just what happens when people have too much agenda a natural course- you get out of the way and they move on I agree censorship is for litewaits

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
but can't because it was stuck together

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: what is fluxus?

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
oh yes!

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
peach mounds throw darts no muscles ache drinks more ream stranger

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: what is fluxus?

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
I don't know if I mentally slow

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: what is fluxus?

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
thanks- I will send you a dollar and a flat version of my latest performance art piece. My address is: Madawg    P.O. Box 916    Pacific Grove, CA 93950

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
no muscle aches, drink three moves fast, train ager

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:

2002-12-18 Thread ArtnAnts
who's to say

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > it's a statement of fact. You do not have facts, you have opinions. Flawed ones. > > We_ are not kids playing grown ups. And you say I am blind. > We are not obviating MOTIVATIONS. This is not a speculation. All you do is specul

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread sean henry
t? fabrice.  >From: "Bertrand Clavez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy >Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:43:38 +0100 > >Dear Tamas, >Well, I had some very ino

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tell us again Joseph, how performance art has to do > with attempting to solicit in an infantile manner other humans sexual > drives? It doesn't, nor does it have anything to do with self-important old farts sitting in a cubical and

FLUXLIST: Re: easy reading materials

2002-12-18 Thread Georg Birkner
12:46:11 -0800 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: FLUXLIST-digest V3 #341 > > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:05:03 -0600 > From: "Josh Ronsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: easy reading materials > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> dont

FLUXLIST: Re: ken friedman on the list...

2002-12-18 Thread Georg Birkner
ec 2002 11:58:57 +0100 > From: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy > > Dear Bertrand, > > I have never attacked Ken Friedman's person on this list or off the > list. > Only explained how he was seen by Fluxus artists. > > Eric >

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Bertrand Clavez wrote: > Laughs > (from a tape played backstage) A fine example of wishful thinking ;)

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread Bertrand Clavez
Laughs (from a tape played backstage) > applause. > (from the sidelines of course) > > - Original Message - > From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:48 PM > Subject:

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-18 Thread Bertrand Clavez
Dear Eric, Great new. > and Fluxfilms, long version. I will see you in Paris in January > sometimes > around the 23rd. > But I guess all this belongs off list. You're right. Best Bertrand

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > Your penis is erect even as we speak. Ah. There it goes. Cheap attempt at attack on sexuality. > I have nothing to hide here. Absolutely correct. You're an empty bloated egotist. > > We simply LOOK at you (and there ir's written. ON YOU). > > Yo

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > > Actually WE DO. > > No matter how much you proclaim it, YOU DO NOT. We do not 'proclaim' anything dearest. it's a statement of fact. > You are mimicing what I write. No dearest. We are not mimicking anything of yours. The whole of your post

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We are not even attempting to engage in such acts. > Keep your pornographic fantasies to yourself. Your penis is erect even as we speak. > No babycheeks. You're NOT amused. > Your "posturing" "amusedly" to cover up your arse :) I h

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Actually WE DO. No matter how much you proclaim it, YOU DO NOT. > It's quitea pparent by how you try to mimic what we write > as if you'd somehow 'assume' the 'authority' > and 'meaning' of what we write. You are mimicing what I w

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > You have not even penetrated the first layer of clothing. We are not even attempting to engage in such acts. Keep your pornographic fantasies to yourself. We REFLECT you as YOU ARE. > But it is amusing to No babycheeks. You're NOT amused. Yo

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > such matter as you are an idiotic egotistic catatonic > simpleton who is pissy to be revealeda s what you_ are. You have not even penetrated the first layer of clothing. But it is amusing to see that you are keeping a database of delus

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, matt benson wrote: > hmm...should have expected some sort of snide conceptual remark to come > floating back. Bleat. Babycheeks. We 'sent' you no 'conceptual remarks'. We don't 'concept'. Your "expectations" are simply a brain knee-jerk + blindness on your part. How

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: Oh look, the ape now mimicries. > We were not speaking to you. You joseph are not a 'we'. Nor are you capable of speaking TO anyone :) > However, I will respond. You have no ability to > HOLD RESPONSIBLE anyone for their actions. Actually WE DO. No

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > Something you have proven incapable of doing. We have "proven" nothing of the sort babycheeks. Keep your myopic wishful projections to yourself. Additionally, you are NOT capable of judging or perceiving such matter as you are an idiotic egotisti

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread matt benson
applause. (from the sidelines of course) - Original Message - From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy > On Tue, 17 Dec 20

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread matt benson
hmm...should have expected some sort of snide conceptual remark to come floating back. and who cares if i comment from the sidelines instead of getting overly emotionally involved and defensive. and this IS entertaining, though in no way relating to the likes of mind-numbing television and laugh t

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > to such, and namely the idea of ARTISTIC REVOLT > against the mistreatment of humans. Something you have proven incapable of doing. joseph (cor e form art) + (porat per ance ist) frank + lyn - mc + El + roy go shopping -> http://www.

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-17 Thread matt benson
it's very complicated... > OK, specifically who is not talking to me? I have lost track. > > -Josh Ronsen > in Austin, Texas

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread joseph (yes)
Quoting "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: We were not speaking to you. However, I will respond. You have no ability to HOLD RESPONSIBLE anyone for their actions. And regardless of how many capital letters you use, you do not exert authority over anybody. You are an impotent entity

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: what is fluxus?

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > just thot I would direct the energy to ideas rather than individuals- The very adorable fascists enjoyed that tactic very much. "Directing" human energies towards "nebulous "lofty" "ideas". Note that we are not implying that you are or labeling

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread Eric Andersen
> Bests > Bertrand > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy > > > Dear Bertrand, &

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > only when rebel teens hook in- usually well. The only "rebel teen" here babycheeks is you. > I shall speak for myselfI > pipe in when there is talk of Yoko and burning museums Burning museums? And churches? Rebel teens? AHEM.

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2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think you are a teenager: to mispercieve and then berate You cannot think, love. The only teenager here is you : keep your wishful projections to yourself. The only one 'misperceiving'--and down right incapable of perception here is 'you'

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: not talking to you either

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > actually it was very conscious- No babycheeks. You are not conscious. Premeditated? "calculatory" asleep kneejerk of your brain? Sure. Conscious? Not. > are you a teenager? Are you a teenager love?

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, joseph (yes) wrote: > What? Do you go around smashing people's faces also? The only one smashing people's faces here is you dear. Making your incogruous pretentious imbecilities OBVIOUS which is what WE DO is not 'smashing your face'. Why don't you entertain us again

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, John M. Bennett wrote: > It was entertaining for a while. We are not here to 'entertain' you. We have never been 'entertaining'. > Now I'd prefer they both shut up But of course you would PREFER that others act like "you" want them to, wouldn't "you"? > unless > they

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Bertrand Clavez wrote: > Shit happens sometimes. No dearest. Humans attempting to damage others is not 'shit happens'. Humans attempting to appropriate another's capacity for autonomous, individual, conscious, volitional ACTION (an aspect of which is ARTISTIC CREATIVI

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy

2002-12-17 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, matt benson wrote: > does this banter happen often? The only 'banter' here is yours, dear :) > (i don't want to get involved. No you just want to comment from the sideline without consequences. Bleat said the voyeristic (inactive) (passiive-aggressive) idiot. I juzt

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