Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-19 Thread Julian Leviston
On 20/06/2011, at 4:33 PM, BGB wrote: > interestingly, I don't believe in getting rid of the file-system, per-se, as > technically it works fairly well and is a proven piece of technology. Interestingly, I disagree entirely. Finding things is a pain for most people (including myself). Julian.

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-19 Thread BGB
On 6/19/2011 9:49 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: On 20/06/2011, at 2:33 PM, BGB wrote: in a sense, the metaphor no longer works, and should likely itself be left to fall into the recycle-bin of history. worse yet is having to read stuff written by people who actually take this metaphor seriously.

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-19 Thread Julian Leviston
On 20/06/2011, at 2:33 PM, BGB wrote: > in a sense, the metaphor no longer works, and should likely itself be left to > fall into the recycle-bin of history. worse yet is having to read stuff > written by people who actually take this metaphor seriously. Given the historical perspective, it wa

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-19 Thread BGB
On 6/19/2011 7:20 PM, Steve Dekorte wrote: On 2011-06-14 Tue, at 09:36 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: The thing that irritates me about this attitude of "don't consider kids as equal" is that we DO consider them as equal in other frames... we expect so much of them in terms of linguistic and cogni

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-19 Thread Julian Leviston
On 20/06/2011, at 12:20 PM, Steve Dekorte wrote: > From this perspective we could see the history of programming as one of > finding ever more natural mappings between how our minds work and how we can > get machines to do what we want - just as steering wheel and floor pedals map > between ou

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-19 Thread Steve Dekorte
On 2011-06-14 Tue, at 09:36 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: > The thing that irritates me about this attitude of "don't consider kids as > equal" is that we DO consider them as equal in other frames... we expect so > much of them in terms of linguistic and cognitive development... and actually > the